Free Will

[toombaru]

The self has as much freewill as a monkey tethered to a post.

It can choose to raise its little hand or even choose between the drinks offered.

It can climb the post a little and look around.

But the freedom of which the sages speak.........has nothing to do with free monkeys.

[Aurora]

The self has as much free will as a monkey tethered to a post.

It can choose to raise its little hand or even choose between the drinks offered.

It can climb the post a little and look around.

But the freedom of which the sages speak.........has nothing to do with free monkeys.

a monkey haven chosen her drink!

[empty-and-full]

Toomby, what are you talkin about now?

[empty-and-full]

I think he's out of his mind.

[empty-and-full]

Oh God! Toomby's at it again!

[empty-and-full]

Toomby ain't so bad, he just doesn't know what he's talkin about.

[empty-and-full]

This is starting to feel so unreal.

[Aurora]

This is starting to feel so unreal.

Perhaps reading some spiritual books would help?

[fox]

But my Willie has free will, doesn't it?

[godszen]

The self has as much freewill as a monkey tethered to a post.

It can choose to raise its little hand or even choose between the drinks offered.

It can climb the post a little and look around.

But the freedom of which the sages speak.........has nothing to do with free monkeys.

could you talk about that freedom?

[toombaru]

The self has as much freewill as a monkey tethered to a post.

It can choose to raise its little hand or even choose between the drinks offered.

It can climb the post a little and look around.

But the freedom of which the sages speak.........has nothing to do with free monkeys.

could you talk about that freedom?

It is sans-simian....freedom from the monkey.

No longer is one identified with the little beasty thing....the monkey continues to do its monkey things....with all the other monkeys.........but now.......it all appears to be a most glorious fluid movement within the unknowable vastness of who you are.







toombaru

[aquarius]

But my Willie has free will, doesn't it?

[Aurora]

It is sans-simian....freedom from the monkey.

No longer is one identified with the little beasty thing....the monkey continues to do its monkey things....with all the other monkeys.........but now.......it all appears to be a most glorious fluid movement within the unknowable vastness of who you are.







toombaru

Could meditation help attaining this ?

[Aurora]

..or perhaps finding a proper guru would help?

[awakening]

Could meditation help attaining this ?

From today's newsletter:

No restoration to an original state can occur as all 'restoration' would assume a 'not-already-so-ness.' IT is already the Timeless-Ever-Present-Original-Stateless-State appearing.

To imagine an Original State to which IT/Consciousness could be restored is Consciousness appearing presently AS such imagination. If there seems to be a seeker trying to accomplish this, or a mind trying to grasp it, then it is again nothing but Consciousness appearing to It-Self as such attempts. All appearances are equal in and to Consciousness; much like different reflections are of 'equal impact' to the mirror.

There is only Consciousness, presently appearing AS All. Or, as you said so well at the beginning of your letter, "All there is is presence/oneness. This presence is all being, all knowing." So if there seems to be a paradox, it can only be an appearance of -and nothing but- This All Being Presence.