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Why?

Post by Aurora » Thu May 27, 2010 7:13 pm

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this talk about something happening
the ego falls away and suddenly there is only Oneness

why does it give me this emperor-new-clothes-feeling?


~ Eldy
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Post by dilaram » Fri May 28, 2010 8:46 am

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Because there is still a 'me' to feel this and because this 'me' says there is only Oneness while Oneness is all there is.

And also because this talk is about something happening and that's only apparently so, in fact there is nothing happening...

And if this answer doesn't please the 'me' there is always this other answer: 'Why not?'

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Re: Why?

Post by danny » Mon May 31, 2010 1:43 am

Aurora wrote: this talk about something happening
the ego falls away and suddenly there is only Oneness

why does it give me this emperor-new-clothes-feeling?


~ Eldy
I don't know, lovely Eldy, but I'm guessing that it is because everyone is pretending to be characters in a play, when on some level they know they are just acting the parts. Obviously, I'm part-borrowing from a quote I read from Awakening earlier.

Something happens/ nothing happens. Just a shift in awareness. It hasn't 'happened' in this body-mind, but there is some understanding of the concept or whatever it is :D
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Post by danny » Mon May 31, 2010 1:48 am

...anyway, I think you called it right. When you accuse the ego of being without clothes, it suddenly sees that there is nothing, nothing there at all!
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Re: Why?

Post by toombaru » Mon May 31, 2010 3:23 am

danny wrote:
Aurora wrote: this talk about something happening
the ego falls away and suddenly there is only Oneness

why does it give me this emperor-new-clothes-feeling?


~ Eldy
I don't know, lovely Eldy, but I'm guessing that it is because everyone is pretending to be characters in a play, when on some level they know they are just acting the parts.




They are what's pretending.







Obviously, I'm part-borrowing from a quote I read from Awakening earlier.

Something happens/ nothing happens. Just a shift in awareness. It hasn't 'happened' in this body-mind, but there is some understanding of the concept or whatever it is :D
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Post by makara » Mon May 31, 2010 4:56 am

This is a really terrific O.P.
Thanks Aurora
I don't know what to write here .. but there
certainly seems to be more than just
from this body one way back to ONEness
Someone wise told me that depth astrology
for example is here to help us work out
our human path ... to show inter alia
what energies have to be resolved.
But really I don't know ... something deep
suggests something about 'evolution' and
the individual.

Rationally: if we simply came from the ONE
and returned directly to that;
then the diversity of human experience
seems grossly unfair.

On the other hand the notion that this is
merely one experience (this life now) and
'we' remain somehow in the cycle of rebirth
or parallel life .. until 'we' realise the falsity
of ego and the ultimate reality of the sub-stratum
...makes great sense.
Boy I wish I knew :)
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Post by toombaru » Mon May 31, 2010 4:58 am

makara wrote:This is a really terrific O.P.
Thanks Aurora
I don't know what to write here .. but there
certainly seems to be more than just
from this body one way back to ONEness
Someone wise told me that depth astrology
for example is here to help us work out
our human path ... to show inter alia
what energies have to be resolved.
But really I don't know ... something deep
suggests something about 'evolution' and
the individual.

Rationally: if we simply came from the ONE
and returned directly to that;
then the diversity of human experience
seems grossly unfair.

On the other hand the notion that this is
merely one experience (this life now) and
'we' remain somehow in the cycle of rebirth
or parallel life .. until 'we' realise the falsity
of ego and the ultimate reality of the sub-stratum
...makes great sense.
Boy I wish I knew :)



Don't hold that breath that you think of as yours.


:lol:
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Post by makara » Mon May 31, 2010 5:04 am

Don't hold that breath that you think of as yours.
OK Mr T :lol:
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Post by danny » Mon May 31, 2010 5:07 am

edit.
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Post by makara » Mon May 31, 2010 5:13 am

edit.
Gregory Bateson said that a non communication
is also a communication.
Hmmmm
now to decipher 'edit'.
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Post by danny » Mon May 31, 2010 5:24 am

edit again
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Post by danny » Mon May 31, 2010 5:36 am

3rd edit

anyway, here is a beautiful song- Sigur Ros- Hippola

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdtwu8ZjbeQ&feature=fvw
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Post by makara » Mon May 31, 2010 5:44 am

Hi Danny,
alas I can't watch utube as here is dial up (yeah I know!)

Not sure how to take yr statement.
Have you ever read any of the writing of the absurdists
(literary movement in the 1930s - centred on Paris)?
Many of them maintained that if you didn't have to
combat the desire to 'not exist' each day then you
were not living.

I wish the thought would not arise here ... but it does
and thus requires attention to eradicate.
Makes me wonder about the 'person' called Danny ...
wonder if he's like 'me' ... getting older, not needed by
anyone, living alone, etc etc .... let 'me' know ...

Knowing it's the ego playing up doesn't always make
it easy ... yet it's true. So 'we' can sometimes need
reminders like this one:-
The truth of reality is that nothing exists outside of awareness. Nothing actually exists without awareness' ability to apprehend itself. This void is the ultimate horror for the ego. A delicious, awesome, overwhelming horror that no ego can withstand.
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Post by Aurora » Mon May 31, 2010 4:43 pm

danny wrote:...anyway, I think you called it right. When you accuse the ego of being without clothes, it suddenly sees that there is nothing, nothing there at all!
That is a cool answer. Yes. The reason it feels like the ego is without clothes , is that it is without clothes :lol:

so simple I couldnt see it!!!

and I liked the video !

with love
~ eldy
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