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makara



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:51 am    Post subject: A memory Reply with quote

When this character was a little Catholic
boy learning his catechism he formulated
(all by himself) the notion that:

If in the beginning there was nothing
but god;
then, ipso facto, everything was god.

He didn't know the latin ipso facto
(though he intuited the meaning)
but it just goes to show what he lost
when his childhood was driven out of him
by church & society.
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Xmac



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have memories of the same kind of after school religion.

I don't know if Jesus was real and I don't really care (kind of like Bill Maher's comment of being an apatheist! hehe), nor do I care if the Buddha was a real man.

As a kid I felt as though there was something really great and radical about this Jesus but that somehow all the grown-ups over the last few hundred years had managed to turn him into a colossal bore. Another goody two shoes to whom we'd have to measure up rather than someone who inspired us to emulate him.

If Jesus was a man I think he really had it going, and most of his radical message was watered down or omitted.

All these years later I've rediscovered his message and I don't believe one word he's supposed to have said that doesn't match the prevailing wisdom of the world's........WAIT, that's not really it. If it doesn't stand up to inquiry and my own inner wisdom, I say it's bunk. Speak to the hand Not talking
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makara



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it doesn't stand up to inquiry and my own inner wisdom, I say it's bunk.

Yes ... ok

But the last paragraph is not quite clear .. can you clarify?
Do you find the Jesus message bunk?
Does the message stand up to inner inquiry?

Oh the joys of being 'done over' by catholicism
in one's young and tender years! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: A memory Reply with quote

makara wrote:
When this character was a little Catholic
boy learning his catechism he formulated
(all by himself) the notion that:

If in the beginning there was nothing
but god;
then, ipso facto, everything was god.

He didn't know the latin ipso facto
(though he intuited the meaning)
but it just goes to show what he lost
when his childhood was driven out of him
by church & society.



Me too Marka---My guess is that most of us as children could intuit the Truth and knew instinctlively That God is and what God is--
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

makara wrote:
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If it doesn't stand up to inquiry and my own inner wisdom, I say it's bunk.

Yes ... ok

But the last paragraph is not quite clear .. can you clarify?
Do you find the Jesus message bunk?
Does the message stand up to inner inquiry?

Oh the joys of being 'done over' by catholicism
in one's young and tender years! Twisted Evil


Oops, guess that was a bit unclear.
Yes, I find that there are many things Jesus said that are very insightful and even though it's not a litmus test, I also like how much of it matches the wisdom of other cultures, religion and philosophy.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

makara wrote:
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If it doesn't stand up to inquiry and my own inner wisdom, I say it's bunk.

Yes ... ok

But the last paragraph is not quite clear .. can you clarify?
Do you find the Jesus message bunk?
Does the message stand up to inner inquiry?

Oh the joys of being 'done over' by catholicism
in one's young and tender years! Twisted Evil



I was not raised in any church at all---And I realized that God was "The very Life of the whole world" is how I put it then as a child and how I re-discovered that I was right then and now this is totally reliable --now-- once again--- Quite lovely
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was not raised in any church at all-

For that Blossom you may be eternally grateful!

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I also like how much of it matches the wisdom of other cultures,

Yes, i'm with you here Xmac.
In the odd clear moment it is all so strikingly simple
and the essense is everywhere (culturally & religiously);
just incredible how 'people' overlay truth with so much
manipulative, self serving nonsense.
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