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nemo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:12 am    Post subject: Transcending desire and compulsion Reply with quote

(Apparently) when identification with the body ceased, so did being "ruled" by desire and compulsions.
One odd artifact of this is hunger. Being "just one more" physical sensation it is easy not to attend to it. And, the "need" to eat and sustain the body becomes a "learned" habit. For example, I discovered tht when I don't eat I tend to get weaker. But there is no compulsion, no "should" around eating.
If this kept going I could see "watching" myself starve to death.
One of the benefits of my wife is she reminds me to do stuff I would probably forget to do.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Re: Transcending desire and compulsion Reply with quote

nemo wrote:
(Apparently) when identification with the body ceased, so did being "ruled" by desire and compulsions.
One odd artifact of this is hunger. Being "just one more" physical sensation it is easy not to attend to it. And, the "need" to eat and sustain the body becomes a "learned" habit. For example, I discovered tht when I don't eat I tend to get weaker. But there is no compulsion, no "should" around eating.
If this kept going I could see "watching" myself starve to death.
One of the benefits of my wife is she reminds me to do stuff I would probably forget to do.






The so called person is nothing other then the desires and compulsions.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: Transcending desire and compulsion Reply with quote

nemo wrote:
(Apparently) when identification with the body ceased, so did being "ruled" by desire and compulsions.


Hi nemo. Glad you said 'apparently'. Otherwise it would seem I'm still stuck in 'being me' Cool

On toombaru's definition, I'm definitely not dead yet. Shocked

Though it does sound a bit like another catch cry: that people are 'nothing but' matter.

As with all definitions, perhaps it depends on the 'viewpoint'. Looked at another way, 'the person' appears to be infinitely more than the desires and compulsions that arise.

One is not driven by desire. Desire is an expression of Being.

It comes and goes in accord with the story being told.

It may appear that 'One has to break free of desire', or that in breaking free of desire, One achieves some goal. These are just storylines.

A good meal, rollerblading along the Esplanade, sitting quietly with my wife cuddled in my arms, a discussion... enjoyment. The feelings are here when they are present, and not when they are not.

The only rule is that there are no rules... "it's different as everyone" Very Happy

Oh wonder of wonders!

Nothing lost, nothing gained.

Love
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Transcending desire and compulsion Reply with quote

michael wrote:
nemo wrote:
(Apparently) when identification with the body ceased, so did being "ruled" by desire and compulsions.


Hi nemo. Glad you said 'apparently'. Otherwise it would seem I'm still stuck in 'being me' 8)

On toombaru's definition, I'm definitely not dead yet. :shock:

Though it does sound a bit like another catch cry: that people are 'nothing but' matter.

As with all definitions, perhaps it depends on the 'viewpoint'. Looked at another way, 'the person' appears to be infinitely more than the desires and compulsions that arise.

One is not driven by desire. Desire is an expression of Being.

It comes and goes in accord with the story being told.

It may appear that 'One has to break free of desire', or that in breaking free of desire, One achieves some goal. These are just storylines.

A good meal, rollerblading along the Esplanade, sitting quietly with my wife cuddled in my arms, a discussion... enjoyment. The feelings are here when they are present, and not when they are not.

The only rule is that there are no rules... "it's different as everyone" :D

Oh wonder of wonders!

Nothing lost, nothing gained.

Love





The love of 'I-am-ness' can be quite compelling.........but don't worry..........It never lasts too long.........The universe is self cleaning.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Transcending desire and compulsion Reply with quote

The same that seems to write:

toombaru wrote:
The love of 'I-am-ness' can be quite compelling.........but don't worry..........It never lasts too long.........The universe is self cleaning.


Seems to write:

"no worries mate" Very Happy

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