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ANNA



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote








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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: practice editing Reply with quote

jeff wrote:
maple3 wrote:
jeff wrote:
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Jed McKenna described the same thing, but he called it "Spiritual Autolysis"... a messy and ruthless process, and not for the faint-hearted.


Love


that old speedbump,
i'm tired of hearing him named,
he is it, as are you,
but in your case,
if i see you,
the speed-bum-p will
cause me to accelerate,..
my attempts to retrieve more form from
the eternal current, for both our sakes,
and discern what is in that bundle for you,
and what is in it for me, if anything,
and what's leftover goes into buying
black paint to cover up the "slow, bump"
symbols, written in the ground,
on either side of jed meckenna's traces...

Okay jeff... but either I'm in a bad mood, or you are Evil or Very Mad... because this comes off as being unnecessarily rude when all I was doing was pointing out a similarity.... In any case, it seems you misunderstood and are reading way too much into it. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, dearest Anna, (((Hugs))) to you too! Very Happy

And wishing you Happy Holidays as well!


Love
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ahh, dearest Anna, (((Hugs))) to you too! Very Happy

And wishing you Happy Holidays as well!


Love


Thank you, dearest 'maple' Laughing

wishing back to you shining holidays...










did you saw santa claus? Shocked





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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: practice editing Reply with quote

maple3 wrote:
jeff wrote:
maple3 wrote:
jeff wrote:
practice editing

Jed McKenna described the same thing, but he called it "Spiritual Autolysis"... a messy and ruthless process, and not for the faint-hearted.


Love


that old speedbump,
i'm tired of hearing him named,
he is it, as are you,
but in your case,
if i see you,
the speed-bum-p will
cause me to accelerate,..
my attempts to retrieve more form from
the eternal current, for both our sakes,
and discern what is in that bundle for you,
and what is in it for me, if anything,
and what's leftover goes into buying
black paint to cover up the "slow, bump"
symbols, written in the ground,
on either side of jed meckenna's traces...

Okay jeff... but either I'm in a bad mood, or you are Evil or Very Mad... because this comes off as being unnecessarily rude when all I was doing was pointing out a similarity.... In any case, it seems you misunderstood and are reading way too much into it. Rolling Eyes


the misunderstanding's your maple,
you made an insightful comment,
i built upon it with an anology i find useful,
i like you, project feelings from the other
and see my self then, and have gratitude for it,
jed mckenna doesn't exist, it's a fun and funny topic,
but in the real-a-tive realm, to talk about him
is to continuously interrupt
and misinterpret what appears to be a core teaching in"his" works,
our longing to hold onto a knower,
a writer, an answerer, a truth teller of anykind is
where the problems began, historically, and to
forward notions such as enlightened ones (referring to a single i)
is, i feel damaging to anyone who does not know the
better and falls upon you ill-conceived conjectures..
whatis your intent,
what is your goal, is it to seek,
then seek,
is it to share your brillaiant observations,
like i so foolishly do now?
then go ahead, but speak of your self, what you
know, unless you are jed, now hiding behind anothe hidden
identity, then, what then?... then it's your problem, and
also ours for the two of you nobody's are now in here,
dragging in a recycled past,
to nobody's benefit as far as i can see,
quote the book, perhaps, and leave it at that,
but beware, your quote may b ill-timed,
or wrongly chosen, for any other than you,
you chose because you alone need to hear it,
and we here must understand that,
it is all futile, words of ours,
quoting another,
apologzing, complaing-explaining,
jed mckenna is a speed bump for the spiritual
traveller, you hit it at your own speed,
it catches your attention or not,
it's effects overshadowed by the next pothole of
the child you jsut ran over becaue you
wer day-dreaming that memoerizing old words
would get anyone anywhere,
i just had some good french brandy,
so you picked the wrong time to post replies,
and i in return pick the next wrong time
to return a useless rant,
so be it,
that's life,
deal with it, or not,
say soemthing original,
and then deal with the reality that you didn't say it,
nor is it your to pretend to own...
you, old rooted maple,

think!, you are nothing!
and winter's-spring approaches,
upward flow returns
LOVE, jeff
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again jeff, unnecessary roughness... also completely inaccurate. Confused

We might be ONE, but you're no true mind-reader of this "one," and you really have no idea about my real thoughts, inclinations, motives, etc. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maple3 wrote:
Again jeff, unnecessary roughness... also completely inaccurate. Confused

We might be ONE, but you're no true mind-reader of this "one," and you really have no idea about my real thoughts, inclinations, motives, etc. Rolling Eyes


thanks for your "smoothness"
i see no distinction,
i see a blaring whiteness,
with strings of meaningless
nothings,
"rough or smooth" might be terms uttered
by blind men as they feel-to-find
their way through the manifest realm,
but as applied to theses scribbles of light,
dear maple, the meaning of these terms is lost to me,
and respectfully now,
it may seem as if i quarrell for no reason, yet
i have no "issues" with any one named maple,
but these conjectures, by your willful reply
present themselves to my attention, here, now

in this little corner of the vast web's-sea,
100 million plus infinities within apparent-finity
i find this small gnat wiggling to be set free

i have said too much again,
yet make no apoplogy because i have said nothing,
light and darkness, jef

http://whatjeffkilled.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="jeff"]
maple3 wrote:
Again jeff, unnecessary roughness... also completely inaccurate. Confused

We might be ONE, but you're no true mind-reader of this "one," and you really have no idea about my real thoughts, inclinations, motives, etc. Rolling Eyes


thanks for your "smoothness"
i see no distinction,
i see a blaring whiteness,
with strings of meaningless
nothings,
"rough or smooth" might be terms uttered
by blind men as they feel-to-find
their way through the manifest realm,
but as applied to theses scribbles of light,
dear maple, the meaning of these terms is lost to me,
and respectfully now,
it may seem as if i quarrell for no reason, yet
i have no "issues" with any one named maple,
but these conjectures, by your willful reply
present themselves to my attention, here, now

in this little corner of the vast web's-sea,
100 million plus infinities within apparent-finity
i find this small gnat wiggling to be set free

i have said too much again,
yet make no apoplogy because i have said nothing,
light and darkness, jef
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Incomplete Manifesto for Growth
Written in 1998, the Incomplete Manifesto is an articulation of statements that exemplify Bruce Mau's beliefs, motivations and strategies. It also articulates how the BMD studio works.

1. Allow events to change you. You have to be willing to grow. Growth is different from something that happens to you. You produce it. You live it. The prerequisites for growth: the openness to experience events and the willingness to be changed by them.

2. Forget about good. Good is a known quantity. Good is what we all agree on. Growth is not necessarily good. Growth is an exploration of unlit recesses that may or may not yield to our research. As long as you stick to good you'll never have real growth.

3. Process is more important than outcome. When the outcome drives the process we will only ever go to where we've already been. If process drives outcome we may not know where weíre going, but we will know we want to be there.

4. Love your experiments (as you would an ugly child). Joy is the engine of growth. Exploit the liberty in casting your work as beautiful experiments, iterations, attempts, trials, and errors. Take the long view and allow yourself the fun of failure every day.

5. Go deep. The deeper you go the more likely you will discover something of value.

6. Capture accidents. The wrong answer is the right answer in search of a different question. Collect wrong answers as part of the process. Ask different questions.

7. Study. A studio is a place of study. Use the necessity of production as an excuse to study. Everyone will benefit.

8. Drift. Allow yourself to wander aimlessly. Explore adjacencies. Lack judgment. Postpone criticism.

9. Begin anywhere. John Cage tells us that not knowing where to begin is a common form of paralysis. His advice: begin anywhere.

10. Everyone is a leader. Growth happens. Whenever it does, allow it to emerge. Learn to follow when it makes sense. Let anyone lead.

11. Harvest ideas. Edit applications. Ideas need a dynamic, fluid, generous environment to sustain life. Applications, on the other hand, benefit from critical rigor. Produce a high ratio of ideas to applications.

12. Keep moving. The market and its operations have a tendency to reinforce success. Resist it. Allow failure and migration to be part of your practice.

13. Slow down. Desynchronize from standard time frames and surprising opportunities may present themselves.

14. Donít be cool. Cool is conservative fear dressed in black. Free yourself from limits of this sort.

15. Ask stupid questions. Growth is fueled by desire and innocence. Assess the answer, not the question. Imagine learning throughout your life at the rate of an infant.

16. Collaborate. The space between people working together is filled with conflict, friction, strife, exhilaration, delight, and vast creative potential.

17. ____________________. Intentionally left blank. Allow space for the ideas you havenít had yet, and for the ideas of others.

18. Stay up late. Strange things happen when youíve gone too far, been up too long, worked too hard, and you're separated from the rest of the world.

19. Work the metaphor. Every object has the capacity to stand for something other than what is apparent. Work on what it stands for.

20. Be careful to take risks. Time is genetic. Today is the child of yesterday and the parent of tomorrow. The work you produce today will create your future.

21. Repeat yourself. If you like it, do it again. If you donít like it, do it again.

22. Make your own tools. Hybridize your tools in order to build unique things. Even simple tools that are your own can yield entirely new avenues of exploration. Remember, tools amplify our capacities, so even a small tool can make a big difference.

23. Stand on someoneís shoulders. You can travel farther carried on the accomplishments of those who came before you. And the view is so much better.

24. Avoid software. The problem with software is that everyone has it.

25. Donít clean your desk. You might find something in the morning that you canít see tonight.

26. Donít enter awards competitions. Just donít. Itís not good for you.

27. Read only left-hand pages. Marshall McLuhan did this. By decreasing the amount of information, we leave room for what he called our "noodle."

28. Make new words. Expand the lexicon. The new conditions demand a new way of thinking. The thinking demands new forms of expression. The expression generates new conditions.

29. Think with your mind. Forget technology. Creativity is not device-dependent.

30. Organization = Liberty. Real innovation in design, or any other field, happens in context. That context is usually some form of cooperatively managed enterprise. Frank Gehry, for instance, is only able to realize Bilbao because his studio can deliver it on budget. The myth of a split between "creatives" and "suits" is what Leonard Cohen calls a 'charming artifact of the past.'

31. Donít borrow money. Once again, Frank Gehryís advice. By maintaining financial control, we maintain creative control. Itís not exactly rocket science, but itís surprising how hard it is to maintain this discipline, and how many have failed.

32. Listen carefully. Every collaborator who enters our orbit brings with him or her a world more strange and complex than any we could ever hope to imagine. By listening to the details and the subtlety of their needs, desires, or ambitions, we fold their world onto our own. Neither party will ever be the same.

33. Take field trips. The bandwidth of the world is greater than that of your TV set, or the Internet, or even a totally immersive, interactive, dynamically rendered, object-oriented, real-time, computer graphicĖsimulated environment.

34. Make mistakes faster. This isnít my idea -- I borrowed it. I think it belongs to Andy Grove.

35. Imitate. Donít be shy about it. Try to get as close as you can. You'll never get all the way, and the separation might be truly remarkable. We have only to look to Richard Hamilton and his version of Marcel Duchampís large glass to see how rich, discredited, and underused imitation is as a technique.

36. Scat. When you forget the words, do what Ella did: make up something else ... but not words.

37. Break it, stretch it, bend it, crush it, crack it, fold it.

38. Explore the other edge. Great liberty exists when we avoid trying to run with the technological pack. We canít find the leading edge because itís trampled underfoot. Try using old-tech equipment made obsolete by an economic cycle but still rich with potential.

39. Coffee breaks, cab rides, green rooms. Real growth often happens outside of where we intend it to, in the interstitial spaces -- what Dr. Seuss calls "the waiting place." Hans Ulrich Obrist once organized a science and art conference with all of the infrastructure of a conference -- the parties, chats, lunches, airport arrivals ó but with no actual conference. Apparently it was hugely successful and spawned many ongoing collaborations.

40. Avoid fields. Jump fences. Disciplinary boundaries and regulatory regimes are attempts to control the wilding of creative life. They are often understandable efforts to order what are manifold, complex, evolutionary processes. Our job is to jump the fences and cross the fields.

41. Laugh. People visiting the studio often comment on how much we laugh. Since I've become aware of this, I use it as a barometer of how comfortably we are expressing ourselves.

42. Remember. Growth is only possible as a product of history. Without memory, innovation is merely novelty. History gives growth a direction. But a memory is never perfect. Every memory is a degraded or composite image of a previous moment or event. Thatís what makes us aware of its quality as a past and not a present. It means that every memory is new, a partial construct different from its source, and, as such, a potential for growth itself.

43. Power to the people. Play can only happen when people feel they have control over their lives. We can't be free agents if weíre not free.

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