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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: The Arising of the Illusion of Self Reply with quote

Some of my old friends here know that there is a preference for this mind to have logical explanations in order to understand. For this reason there has been an urge recently to try to explain how the illusion of individuality, a separate self, has arisen. It has certainly become clear that once that illusion is pierced and it is obvious that there is no such thing as "me" other than as a mental construct, then life (the dream) and they way it is seen it can change fairly dramatically. So here is an attempt to tie it all together. If it helps, then great. As Leo will say, all such explanations are just more arising in this eternal present and are just for the fun of it.

The Arising of the Illusion of Self

1. BEING always is and is all there is. (For BEING you can substitute ONE, GOD, ENERGY, TAO, IT or whatever).

2. BEING appears in all forms, as all forms and is all forms.

3. All separation between forms is apparent only, because it is all only ever BEING.

4. Regardless of form, BEING is always aware and this awareness is Knowing. BEING knows Itself as all that is but not as subject. This Knowing is what BEING is. This Knowing is unmediated and always is. It is not consciousness, but it has been called Consciousness.

4. Within BEING and as BEING, through the perfectly legitimate functioning of physical and biological processes of growth and decay all only ever within and as BEING, new forms arise and decline, endlesslly without purpose. Nothing ever happens. It is not going anywhere. It simply is.

5. Certain physical forms which can be called 'living organisms' possess in-built capacities and behaviours whose objective is solely to stay alive - often referred to as 'survival mechanisms'. Staying alive simply refers to the continued functioning of the organism. It has nothing to do with Being which always is and is only ever what the form (living organism) is. BEING itself is beyond living or dying. BEING is never born and never dies. Living and dying, life and death, arise within BEING.

6. In the human form, the living organism has evolved a brain with the capacity to think. This capacity to model the environment in mental concepts is an advanced survival mechanism over purely biological or physical survival mechansims such as fight or flight. Just as for those, this capacity's sole function is to keep the form, the living organism, alive, to survive. Alive or dead, life or death are just states of BEING. BEING always is. BEING doesn't care which state it is in.

7. In its functioning to maintain the survival of the organism, the mental model gives rise to an image of the living organism which is believed to be separate from the apparent 'world' and other forms with which it must interact to survive. This separation is apparent only, since it is all only ever BEING itself.

8. The mental model thus results in an image of the physical organism as being something separate and the sense of separate self arises. This is simply a logical result of the mental model but there is never any real such thing. This false sense of separation, which is a logical survival mechanism only, is the source of all types of human suffering because it is based on the false premise of separation. It gives rise to a belief that there actually is a separate entity or self which is in control and doing things. This is of course evidently completely false. It is an image made of nothing. Ironically therefore, something which has evolved to promote survival ends up creating suffering just to survive. However it is perfectly possible to survive and to live without suffering!! Just about all other living creatures do it perfectly well. Only man, who believes himself to be the most highly evolved form of life, makes a mess of it and turns living into suffering and in so doing separates himself from that which he is, his essence.

9. Over the years of life of the human form this false sense of separation is reinforced by its interaction with the world and other 'human' (apparently separate) forms. This sense of a separate self is completely illusory and has nothing to do with BEING which always is and is all there is. There is no separation in BEING. The sense of being alive and existing IS the Knowing of BEING but this has nothing to do with the sense of self which is false. In the human form BEING knows itself as alive in the absence of any sense of self. This is the state of a baby prior to the arising of the sense of separation. The Knowing of BEING however even in the human form is completely neutral. It has no reference, relevance or interest in the "me" story of the particular organism.

10. The human suffering that results from the erroneous sense of separation ("Lifes a bitch and shit happens") gives rise to further mental strategies for survival which manifest, amongst many other survival behaviours, as beliefs. These attempt to provide the promise of survival in the belief in some greater entity or other safer place than this threatening world where the separate self may survive or be saved. All such beliefs are simply nonsense because they are all only based upon the illusion of there being any such form separate from a world out there when in fact it is all only ever ONE as BEING.

11. In addition to the pursuit of such beliefs, the human organism may also indulge in all manner of other behaviours aimed at alleviating the suffering caused by the illusion of separation. These often include behaviours that result in the temporary suppression of the sense of separation or self through intoxication of the system or attempting to merge closely with another human form or similar distractions or even pretending to be God Almighty himself, which is the drive to be rich, famous and powerful and hence able to control survival. Such behaviours only ever appear to give temporary relief and then the suffering returns. Hence the roller coaster ride and that all megalomaniacs, dictators and famous people all come to nothing in the end because they are all built on a false foundation - separation and whatever is based upon or emphasises separation will fail.

12. Some beliefs (in fact most) arise as a result of the breakdown or disappearance in certain human forms of the sense of separation. In the absence of the sense of separate self there is just pure Knowing of BEING. When compared to the illusory view of separation, such a glimpse of pure BEING is a radical experience for the human form. It is also seen to be the apparent solution to all human problems or suffering. Whereas in fact all such suffering or problems only exist because of the illusion of separation. No such separation can ever be real and there is nothing and no-one who is ever not BEING itself. So a glimpse of BEING or the description of such a glimpse appears to the false sense of a separate self to be the ultimate survival solution!! The end of all problems and suffering. And so seeking begins to try to experience or reach that state.

13. All such seeking is however logically deemed to fail because that which is seeking is an illusion and doesn't exist and that which is seeking is already that which it seeks which is BEING!!!! Put quite incorrectly therefore it is incorrectly true to say that 'everyone' is already enlightened because there is no 'everyone' and never anything other than enlightenment, which is just BEING which has always been and always is. In the absence of the illusory sense of self (a correct mental model of reality ie when understanding is aligned with what is) then BEING sees only Itself, recognises Itself, in and as all things. This is Oneness.

14. Thus, so long as there is a separate sense of self there will be (human) behaviour which gives rise to suffering because it is based on the falsehood of separation. All such suffering is totally unnecessary and based only on a false understanding (a false model) of reality. This false model then gives rise to all sorts of false theories and false behaviours which try to undo or explain the error and the suffering. So long as such theories and behaviours are based upon the erroneous model they will fail. It seems however that the repeated glimpses occuring of the absence of self, when the illusion is seen through and the story of self (me) is seen to be false, are causing the mental model to be re-evaluated. This is because the sole function of the mental model is to facilitate survival of the (human) organism, whereas it is becoming clear that because the current model is flawed or has become based around a false premise, it is actually causing more harm than good and that many if not most of the behaviours it promotes actually cause unnecessary suffering which do more to threaten the survival of the organism than protect it!! In a sense the human form(s) are waking up to this error and the waking up is simply the questioning of the veracity of the sense of separate self. Once that questioning starts the seeds of disbelief in the illusion are sown and the whole structure starts to crumble. It becomes no longer possible to believe in a story of "me" as being anything real as a separate entity. So strong is the illusion of "me" as a separate entity however, that this insight, paradoxically, is seen as something done or realised by "me", whereas it is in fact just a total logical dropping back into pure Knowing as BEING where no such separate self exists or is even really needed. What is more and perhaps even more apparently surprising is that nothing changes without the separate sense of self because the sense of a separate entity was only ever a mental illusion anyway and was never doing anything, so its apparent absence makes no difference whatsoever to what is, which always has been and only ever will be BEING.

16. So all there is is BEING and you are THAT.


Thanks to Toombaru for encouraging me to post this.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ram Tzu Knows....

Thank you.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant, McB, thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It has certainly become clear that once that illusion is pierced and it is obvious that there is no such thing as "me" other than as a mental construct, then life (the dream) and they way it is seen it can change fairly dramatically.


Here, the "me" wants this!
Confused


Or rather, it is seen, that the "me" wants this.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Fox, that is right.

It is the extent to which what the "me" wants is simply seen or indulged.

What the "me" wants is just another arising which probably has perfectly valid reasons for its survival within its own story (mental model of the world and itself).

However Seeing that is not believing it (as it were!), but indulging is the start of the whole damned problem!!! Shocked

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks McB & toombaru,
a very crisp rundown, from my view,

yet i would propose:
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing (how dare he!)
i would propose to look at it,
filter it through the forum,
ie open-source it, not to change the original
but to look at it with extra input,
the old model tells us this is taboo,
do not rewrite the knower (while alive)
but interpret it to hell when (s)he's dead...
what if it was somehow made
clearer through such a process,
who would benefit?

either way, excellent...
in my silly opinion that is
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Jeff, that is the intention - to open source it.
To let it be chewed on!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

“The sky, the earth, the air and space, the mountains and the rivers, are all parts of the mind. They only appear on the outside. Do not think that the world exists outside. The world outside is just a reflection of your mind. The appearance of the world is nothing but the play of the mind; and the mind is nothing but the play of the omnipotent, infinite Being. Through our mind, we create a world. However, the great Being, God, through His mind, has created this entire universe.”

- Yoga Vasishtha
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, the great Being, God, through His mind, has created this entire universe.

and that is what YOU are!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McB wrote:
Yes, Jeff, that is the intention - to open source it.
To let it be chewed on!!

Love
McB


like fine food,
first thanks for it's manifesting,
then small bites,
chewed slowly,
a bit of tea,
good friends all around,
what miracles...
what beauty
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McB wrote:
Quote:
However, the great Being, God, through His mind, has created this entire universe.

and that is what YOU are!!

Love
McB


Dear 'McB',

is there in Geneva a lot of snow? Smile

Warm hugs,

anna

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4. Regardless of form, BEING is always aware and this awareness is Knowing. BEING knows Itself as all that is but not as subject. This Knowing is what BEING is. This Knowing is unmediated and always is. It is not consciousness, but it has been called Consciousness.

here, there is an old self that sees the words knowing, & know,
only words, but the reference back to a self that knows
i feel it has potential for misdirection (for any seeker)
Knowing with the capitol K refers to this higher knowing, yet somehow
refers sublty to a mind (or worse a brain-organ that knows) should know, or can find~ through that form of understanding...
to know, knower, knowing known... seems to refer to either an external source, (rather than eternal) or to a one, an-other that knows... either misunderstanding leads the seeker towards this source, away from the Self, away from The One, maybe...
a silly, redundant point, yet;

4. Regardless of form, BEING is always ever-aware and this ever-awareness is now-ing. BEING nows It's-self as all that is but not as subject. This now-ing is what BEING is, now & all-ways IS. This now-ing is unmediated and always is, all-ways. It is not consciousness, but it has been called Consciousness, so is & is not, so Is only Being.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Anna, there was good snow last Wednesday, very beautiful.
We had about 20cms and we live at 750 metres. It was then below freezing for a few days but it is warming up now and the snow is melting fast. The problem for the skiers is that underneath the ground itself is too warm. There is no perma-frost this year. Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Indulging....mmmmm....yum! Reply with quote

McB wrote:

.... indulging is the start of the whole damned problem!!! Shocked

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McB



Problem?

What problem?

Ya got a problem?

Ya got a problem wit DIS?

OK.....Ya got a problem! . So?

Love,
saraprobe'ndaproblem


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and with respect, and no attachment at all to any "my" stuff...

8. The mental model thus results in an image of the physical organism as being something separate and the sense of separate self arises. This is simply a logical result of the mental model but there is never any real such thing. This false sense of separation, which is a logical survival mechanism only, is the source of all types of human suffering because it is based on the false premise of separation. It gives rise to a belief that there actually is a separate entity or self which is in control and doing things. This is of course evidently completely false. It is an image made of nothing. Ironically therefore, something which has evolved to promote survival ends up creating suffering just to survive. However it is perfectly possible to survive and to live without suffering!! Just about all other living creatures do it perfectly well. Only man, who believes himself to be the most highly evolved form of life, makes a mess of it and turns living into suffering and in so doing separates himself from that which he is, his essence.

8. This purely conceptual, or mental model, thus results in an i-mage of the physical organism as being something separate and this sense-derived conception of separate self co-arises. This is simply a logical result of the mental model but there is never any real such thing. This false sense of separation, which is a logical survival mechanism only, is the source of all types of human suffering because it is based & built up-on the false premise of separation. It gives rise to a belief that there actually is a separate entity or self which is in control and doing things. This is of course evidently completely false. It is an i-mage made of nothing. Ironically therefore, something which has evolved to promote survival ends up creating suffering just for it's own survival... Being has not, will not, needs not, any evolving. This co-arising self is the one that suffers, Being does not. However it is perfectly possible to survive and to live without suffering!! Just about all other living creatures do it perfectly well. Only a human being, who believes it's self to be the most highly evolved form of life, makes a mess of it and turns living into suffering and in so doing separates it's self from that which it is, essence, or Being, only Being.
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