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What do you know of the universe that is not an idea?
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: What do you know of the universe that is not an idea? Reply with quote

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What do you know of the universe that is not an idea?



So when an image of a tree appears in awareness, are you saying the tree isn't really there, the tree is just an idea formed in awareness?
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THAT is perceived. That it is a TREE is just an idea
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brianpeter wrote:
THAT is perceived. That it is a TREE is just an idea


So all there is is perception by awareness which is no thing.

So there is nothing outside of perception?
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aquarius wrote:
brianpeter wrote:
THAT is perceived. That it is a TREE is just an idea


So all there is is perception by awareness which is no thing.

So there is nothing outside of perception?


Not only is there nothing outside of perception, there is also nothing inside of perception.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dilaram wrote:
aquarius wrote:
brianpeter wrote:
THAT is perceived. That it is a TREE is just an idea


So all there is is perception by awareness which is no thing.

So there is nothing outside of perception?


Not only is there nothing outside of perception, there is also nothing inside of perception.


except ideas?
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there is nothing outside of perception?

other than what is perceived. One and the same, really.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brianpeter wrote:
So there is nothing outside of perception?

other than what is perceived. One and the same, really.


Ah, thank you.

So all the apparent others that seemly appear outside of me are really in me?
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So all the apparent others that seemly appear outside of me are really in me?

Whatever we try to say about it, we cannot pin it down (there is no IT). There is ONE existence. It is NO THING. THAT is what you are.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dilaram wrote:
aquarius wrote:
brianpeter wrote:
THAT is perceived. That it is a TREE is just an idea


So all there is is perception by awareness which is no thing.

So there is nothing outside of perception?


Not only is there nothing outside of perception, there is also nothing inside of perception.


"It is what it is?"

I just love that,
if it was'nt 'what it is,
it would be what it aint!
Which is what it is.

Consider "The Play of Consciousness."
Appearing on the screen of Awareness by way of Sensation ( the by-product of Static, non/unmoving Potentiality/The Void/Abyss/Veil )

That means the "IT" or "That" is "Self-perpetuating", "Self-sustaining." aka "the no-thingy IS (Life) ITSELF. (Quite the phenom, eh?)

Wink

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there is a field,
I'll meet you there." !Jallaladin Rumi

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
dilaram wrote:
aquarius wrote:
brianpeter wrote:
THAT is perceived. That it is a TREE is just an idea


So all there is is perception by awareness which is no thing.

So there is nothing outside of perception?


Not only is there nothing outside of perception, there is also nothing inside of perception.


"It is what it is?"

I just love that,
if it was'nt 'what it is,
it would be what it aint!
Which is what it is.

Consider "The Play of Consciousness."
Appearing on the screen of Awareness by way of Sensation ( the by-product of Static, non/unmoving Potentiality/The Void/Abyss/Veil )

That means the "IT" or "That" is "Self-perpetuating", "Self-sustaining." aka "the no-thingy IS (Life) ITSELF. (Quite the phenom, eh?)

Wink

ps.
"Beyond the conceptions of right-doing and wrong-doing
there is a field,
I'll meet you there." !Jallaladin Rumi

no goyoutube.com/watch?v=hwyuQbIb0Xs




"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."

George W Bush


--LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toombaru wrote:




"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."

George W Bush


--LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000


Sounds as though Georgie boy was tippin a few, as usual, and mis-spoke his self again. ~Doh! Embarassed

Non-Sequitir?
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Om Namah Shivaya. . .
I bow to the lord who abides within.
The Resurrection Body, as it were.'




You got a res-sur-rection body
I got a bran new key
Let's get together and see what happens.
Maybe that's only thing
that separates you and me.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aquarius wrote:
brianpeter wrote:
So there is nothing outside of perception?

other than what is perceived. One and the same, really.


Ah, thank you.

So all the apparent others that seemly appear outside of me are really in me?





And the 'me' is an idea arising, I am nothing but an idea.

Which is nothing, because we[correction] the I AM have no idea what an idea is.

Gosh, this really does appear to be a dream....it's a crazy dream Dancing
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toombaru wrote:
"Om Namah Shivaya. . .
I bow to the lord who abides within.
The Resurrection Body, as it were.'




You got a res-sur-rection body
I got a bran new key
Let's get together and see what happens.
Maybe that's only thing
that separates you and me.


That "Body", if so it might be said, is the vehicle of astral projection.
The only ticket for a beyonder.

Your more that welcome to tag along in your own vehicle (know it or not)
I was sent to show you the way, see? Wink
While I'm not a salesman... That "Old-Clunker your driven right now is headed for the recycle depot ya-know...It's really just a matter of time after all.

Only thing about this new time amchine is,
It's a D.I.Y-er.
Better get busy...
"The end is near". Wink

Can ya feel me brother? Laughing
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