awakeningtothedream.com Forum Index awakeningtothedream.com
Non Duality: The one question to all our answers.
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Why An I?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    awakeningtothedream.com Forum Index -> Awakening to the Dream
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
dilaram
Guest





PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Why An I? Reply with quote

'That' creates an 'I' to experience separation.

Last edited by dilaram on Mon May 24, 2010 1:28 pm; edited 3 times in total
Back to top
toombaru



Joined: 10 May 2005
Posts: 5189
Location: There are no locations

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Why an I? Reply with quote

dilaram wrote:
THAT creates me to experience separation.




What creates a mirage just to confuse us?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
dilaram
Guest





PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Us' is confusion.
Back to top
toombaru



Joined: 10 May 2005
Posts: 5189
Location: There are no locations

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dilaram wrote:
'Us' is confusion.




The sense of being a self can lead a profound conceptual confusion.
The only tools it has to extricate it's self from the despair are the very tools that cause it.
It's like a tarbaby fighting its own image in the mirror.


Last edited by toombaru on Thu May 20, 2010 5:26 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
aquarius



Joined: 16 May 2007
Posts: 2408
Location: The united kingdom of heaven

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sense of ‘I am’ is both unreal and real. Unreal when I say ‘I am this or that’. It is real when we mean ‘I am not this nor that’.
The ‘I am’ and the witness are not one, but without one the other cannot be.

~ Nisargadatta
_________________
I love talking about nothing ...
it is the only thing i know anything about.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Libra



Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Posts: 518

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it takes two I's to make a we

two eyes to see a you

a single eye to see nothing

'aye' says I" FOOL~chris moore
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
michael



Joined: 18 Oct 2003
Posts: 3816
Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toombaru wrote:
dilaram wrote:
'Us' is confusion.




The sense of being a self can lead a profound conceptual confusion.
The only tools it has to extricate it's self from the despair are the very tools that cause it.
It's like a tarbaby fighting its own image in the mirror.


'the sense of self' causes nothing.. not even 'confusion'... it is based in thought...

'the sense of confusion' too is a 'thought'... and, like any other thought... is powerless to 'do' anything...

a shadow cannot confuse itself... or the light

how should a thought confuse itself...

or awareness of it?

the moment it arises... there is no confusion at all about the 'sense of confusion' that is experienced...

there is no 'causal chain' that binds awareness

all 'causal chains' are apparent only...

its like the image of a tarbaby fighting its image in the image of a mirror...

like a cartoon on a TV...

apart from the momentary 'engagement' of the viewer in the story... the moment the scene switches... the viewer has forgotten the 'tarbaby scene' and is engaged in the next bit of the story... and as soon as the cartoon ends... the viewer remains as they are...

it is all story... all 'idea'... manifested through these sensations... there is no 'world out there' at all... except as imagined...

as for 'imagination'... all that appears to be 'real' from the 'sub-atomic'... through 'molecules', 'cells' and 'bodies'... to 'worlds' and galaxies'... all this... in all times and all places... on every 'scale'... all this is 'idea' alone...

ever Known... ever unchanged... each idea defined by every other idea...

Knowing/Known as One...

by some it is called 'Omniscience'... this dark unknowable Knowing/Known...

made momentarily apparent in awareness (with which it is One) through this power guiding these sensations (which are One with the senses) to manifest these apparent 'objects'...

as the image appears... the meaning associated with it is re-cognised instantly... not as a thought or word... but in the recognition of the apparent object as the thing it appears to be...

instantly the image appears... it may be recognised as a 'snake'... as that meaning is associated with it... and instantly again the same image may appear as a 'rope'... as that meaning is associated with it...

it is all sound and light (colour)...and feeling and odour and flavour (all sensations one with the Senses)... and number, form and meaning (all ideas one with the Knowing)...

All One...

how wonder full...

Love
_________________
From Source to Source: an Endless Spring
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    awakeningtothedream.com Forum Index -> Awakening to the Dream All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group