To be or not to be - the question to all answers

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To be or not to be - the question to all answers

Post by Aurora » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:16 pm

I wonder. Is it like this: The one I really am is not needing anything, and is resting is eternal peace forever with no worries contented forever.
The one I think I am because of some false Identification is never happy , and never pleased, and there is always something wrong, but this Identification does not really matter, because it really does not exist, so however you look at it, we all are in peace and are realized, knowing it or not.

So then - Why Worry?
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Re: To be or not to be - the question to all answers

Post by jeff j » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:44 pm

eldberg wrote:I wonder. Is it like this:
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The one I really am is not needing anything, and is resting is eternal peace forever with no worries con-
tented forever.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
The one I think I am because of some false Identification is never happy , and never pleased, and there is always something wrong, but this Identification does not really matter, because it really does not exist,
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so however you look at it, we all are in peace and are realized, knowing it or not.
So then - Why Worry?

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beautiful, yes...
i think
it
is like
this
be yourself, the real fictional character?
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Post by epi » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:52 pm

The main reason people are unhappy or miserable

or confused is because they are unable to believe reality.

The are Non-Believers as it were.

Believers are generally pretty removed from the chaos of power and doubt.

Its simply a matter of suspending ones dis-belief..

that would be the movement as it were.

Time Travel is possible....

and there is no Real Time other than

the Present....

Amen...

:wink:

thanks for re-minding me eldberg #-o
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Post by hoopla » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:01 pm

I wonder. Is it like this: The one I really am is not needing anything, and is resting is eternal peace forever with no worries contented forever.
This is a "sounds-true" story
The one I think I am because of some false Identification is never happy , and never pleased, and there is always something wrong, but this Identification does not really matter, because it really does not exist, so however you look at it, we all are in peace and are realized, knowing it or not.
This is also a "sounds-true" story


So then - Why Worry?
This is the "Why" story
The main reason people are unhappy or miserable
or confused is because they are unable to believe reality.
This is "the reason" story

This is "the reason" story

And my "story" of your story is a story!



And, whatever you think of my story of the above stories is just more story.

End of story??? Ha, ha, ha. Just more story............................









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Post by angela » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:03 pm

Yes, it's as if we can't believe that things aren't perfect.
That things aren't 'as they should be'.
Yet this seems to be a fact of life. :D
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Post by michael » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:46 am

angela wrote:Yes, it's as if we can't believe that things aren't perfect.
That things aren't 'as they should be'.
Yet this seems to be a fact of life. :D
it's even simpler...

there is no 'we' to believe anything...
just the 'beliefs'... the 'stories'...

nor is there any 'false identification'...

it is simply knowing the story as it arises from the perspective of a particular 'being' in the story.

to experience the belief 'I am this man (eldberg)', or 'I am this woman (angela)'... is to know it in conjunction with the momentary sensations that give the world its apparent 'substance'.

the story by its very nature is 'dualistic'...
containing every 'opposite'...

to experience 'good', 'bad' must be known
and to experience 'bad', 'good' must be known...

each 'experience' is over as it is begun...

only memory...
arising as part of the apparent experience
tells
the meaning of the moment
the story of the past
and
anticipates the future...

instantly
this memory
and these fleeting sensations
appear to
disturb
this peace...

and instantly
they cease...

this is at it ever is
all undisturbed...

these words appear to be telling another story
yet that which is understood
is not this that understands

for this that understands
cannot be understood

intuitively
the Heart looks not at the meaning...

seeing and hearing and tasting and smelling and feeling
and knowing

aware...

Love
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Post by hoopla » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:26 am

michael wrote: for this that understands
cannot be understood

intuitively
the Heart looks not at the meaning...

aware...

If it "looks" in any way it is searching, searching for meaning, meaning a story, a story of love, and a love of story.

In the absolute moment, prior to story, there is no search, no understanding. Anything that tickles the awareness button stimulates a story of the most magnificent and epic proportions.

In Story we trust. Hmmm, that sounds like a better spin for the dollar's "In God we trust.

Yet, this to is another story. A dog running in a circle trying to bite its tale....






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-lotta hoopla
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Post by hoopla » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:57 am

Okay, okay, okay, there is no story.

nothing is....





Like I said befor, there is no hoopla....



:roll:
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Post by awakening » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:04 am

michael wrote:yet that which is understood
is not this that understands
Ahhh, so there's two-ness after all!? :?: :idea: :wink:
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Post by awakening » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:07 am

hoopla wrote:Okay, okay, okay, there is no story.
Now, that's what I call a good story. 8)
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Post by michael » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:32 am

awakening wrote:
michael wrote:yet that which is understood
is not this that understands
Ahhh, so there's two-ness after all!? :?: :idea: :wink:
apparently so... smile

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Post by epi » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:37 am

As far as worry goes thats simple.

One can only worry about what someone else said...

Thinks about it...

The world is actually silent...

its a mute sequence on non-exsistant 'I's"

Its wierd

:?
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Post by epi » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:40 am

Hear-Say



i's pushing a rope
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Post by michael » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:44 am

emptyprincipal wrote:Hear-Say
excellent...

all 'saying'...

is only ever 'hearing'... smile

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Post by michael » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:54 am

michael embellished wrote:yet that which is understood (the meaning of the story)
is not this that understands the meaning
though the story cannot be separated from the understanding of it...

both the story and the understanding are invisible, intangible, silent, odourless and without taste...

and yet

through these sensations the story seems to arise... 'in epic proportions'... smile

how wonder full

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