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Yellow Headed Blackbirds

Post by toombaru » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:58 am

There lives a small creature with a black body and a bright yellow head.

They were given the name "yellow headed blackbird" for obvious reasons.

I mean...........you wouldn't call them.......pimicongas.....or astrolopes........winawauples.........

But...........when we give the name "yellow headed blackbird"........all of a sudden they become
yellow headed blackbirds..........and the beautiful... little flying mystery disappears into the name.........and never to return.




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Re: Yellow Headed Blackbirds

Post by Many Of One » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:19 am

toombaru wrote:There lives a small creature with a black body and a bright yellow head.

They were given the name "yellow headed blackbird" for obvious reasons.

I mean...........you wouldn't call them.......pimicongas.....or astrolopes........winawauples.........

But...........when we give the name "yellow headed blackbird"........all of a sudden they become
yellow headed blackbirds..........and the beautiful... little flying mystery disappears into the name.........and never to return.




toombaru
The beauty hasn't vanished, it's still there. The apparent problem is in the confusing of the bird for the name. While the bird has it's beauty the name also has a beauty to it and they arise from the same mystery.

Like two waves on the ocean niether better or worse than the other they still maintain the same oceanic mystery.

Fantastic! :D

PS. The confusion is also a wave and it has beauty too. :D
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Re: Yellow Headed Blackbirds

Post by michael » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:58 am

Many Of One wrote:
toombaru wrote:There lives a small creature with a black body and a bright yellow head.

They were given the name "yellow headed blackbird" for obvious reasons.

I mean...........you wouldn't call them.......pimicongas.....or astrolopes........winawauples.........

But...........when we give the name "yellow headed blackbird"........all of a sudden they become
yellow headed blackbirds..........and the beautiful... little flying mystery disappears into the name.........and never to return.




toombaru
The beauty hasn't vanished, it's still there. The apparent problem is in the confusing of the bird for the name. While the bird has it's beauty the name also has a beauty to it and they arise from the same mystery.

Like two waves on the ocean niether better or worse than the other they still maintain the same oceanic mystery.

Fantastic! :D

PS. The confusion is also a wave and it has beauty too. :D
the apparent confusion comes from seeing the 'little black and yellow blob' that appears to be the creature, as any different to the 'black sqiggles' that appear to be the words: "yellow headed blackbird"...

both are simply 'colours seen'... that they appear to be any 'thing' at all is the illusion... 8)

the 'real' "yellow headed blackbird" has never been seen... :o

and what appears to vanish is not beauty....
it is beauty’s image…

what a mystery... :D

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Post by awakening » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:58 am

They are so beautiful
those black bodied yellow heads.

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Re: Yellow Headed Blackbirds

Post by Antonella » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:22 am

Words are thoughts, names are thoughts...they all carry powerful energy; at times, this energy can be overwhelming and you forget about seeing what is staring at you, right in front of your eyes. Thoughts are not predestined but they are simply reactions of our minds. They do not tell anything about the 'real'essence of the bird or 'you' (for what it matters). Words or thoughts are only a reflection or impressions of what's going on inside someone's mind..it could be fear, confusion, love, delight...

Compare the name of our 'yellow headed blackbird' with the names of some 'sacred' birds and their meaning: dove (mother goddess), eagle (light, ray, illumination)ibis, owl(inner wisdom,witch) , swan (grace) , phoenix (secret cycle an regeneration), heron (fire + knowledge), peacock(the all seeing eyes), falcon (messenger) , pelican ( mother, procreativity)...these names are made up more of simple 'descriptions' they are connotations of their true essence.

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Re: Yellow Headed Blackbirds

Post by heron » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:19 am

Antonella wrote:Words are thoughts, names are thoughts...they all carry powerful energy; at times, this energy can be overwhelming and you forget about seeing what is staring at you, right in front of your eyes. Thoughts are not predestined but they are simply reactions of our minds. They do not tell anything about the 'real'essence of the bird or 'you' (for what it matters). Words or thoughts are only a reflection or impressions of what's going on inside someone's mind..it could be fear, confusion, love, delight...

Compare the name of our 'yellow headed blackbird' with the names of some 'sacred' birds and their meaning: dove (mother goddess), eagle (light, ray, illumination)ibis, owl(inner wisdom,witch) , swan (grace) , phoenix (secret cycle an regeneration), heron (fire + knowledge), peacock(the all seeing eyes), falcon (messenger) , pelican ( mother, procreativity)...these names are made up more of simple 'descriptions' they are connotations of their true essence.

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In the All is One story there is nothing in front of your eyes and nothing staring back at you.................for one very good reason.
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Re: Yellow Headed Blackbirds

Post by Antonella » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:26 am

heron wrote: In the All is One story there is nothing in front of your eyes and nothing staring back at you.................for one very good reason.
It is entirely up to you whether you want to see it or pretend not to see it...I mean awareness..

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Re: Yellow Headed Blackbirds

Post by Many Of One » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:30 am

michael wrote:the apparent confusion comes from seeing the 'little black and yellow blob' that appears to be the creature, as any different to the 'black sqiggles' that appear to be the words: "yellow headed blackbird"...

both are simply 'colours seen'... that they appear to be any 'thing' at all is the illusion... 8)

the 'real' "yellow headed blackbird" has never been seen... :o

and what appears to vanish is not beauty....
it is beauty’s image…

what a mystery... :D

Love
What do you mean by 'real' "yellow headed blackbird"? (Is there one?)

I suppose beauty is a 'feeling felt', another appearance like the 'colours seen'.
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Re: Yellow Headed Blackbirds

Post by Many Of One » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:50 am

Antonella wrote:Words are thoughts, names are thoughts...they all carry powerful energy; at times, this energy can be overwhelming and you forget about seeing what is staring at you, right in front of your eyes. Thoughts are not predestined but they are simply reactions of our minds. They do not tell anything about the 'real'essence of the bird or 'you' (for what it matters). Words or thoughts are only a reflection or impressions of what's going on inside someone's mind..it could be fear, confusion, love, delight...

Compare the name of our 'yellow headed blackbird' with the names of some 'sacred' birds and their meaning: dove (mother goddess), eagle (light, ray, illumination)ibis, owl(inner wisdom,witch) , swan (grace) , phoenix (secret cycle an regeneration), heron (fire + knowledge), peacock(the all seeing eyes), falcon (messenger) , pelican ( mother, procreativity)...these names are made up more of simple 'descriptions' they are connotations of their true essence.

A
The you that forgets is just another thought.

The mind is nothing other than thought, nothing therefore to react just more thoughts appearing to suggest a reation.

Those 'sacred' bird names are no more, or less, a 'connotation of their true essence' than "yellow headed blackbird".
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Post by michael » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:42 am

Many Of One wrote:
michael wrote:the apparent confusion comes from seeing the 'little black and yellow blob' that appears to be the creature, as any different to the 'black squiggles' that appear to be the words: "yellow headed blackbird"...

both are simply 'colours seen'... that they appear to be any 'thing' at all is the illusion... 8)

the 'real' "yellow headed blackbird" has never been seen... :o

and what appears to vanish is not beauty....
it is beauty’s image…

what a mystery... :D

Love
What do you mean by 'real' "yellow headed blackbird"? (Is there one?)

I suppose beauty is a 'feeling felt', another appearance like the 'colours seen'.
'real' can be 'real' only by definition...

here 'real' stands for that which is unchanging...

for then what it is now, it is ever thus...

by this definition what appears and disappears is not 'real'... it is thus (by definition) 'illusion'...

since the appearance of these words 'comes and goes'... they are 'illusion'...

all that is sensed is by this definition 'illusion'…

it is also apparent that 'one moment' this is known, and the next moment something else is known and that which was known at first is completely 'forgotten'... until it is again remembered.

thus it appears that 'all is illusion'…

and that the 'real' is non-existent... for it cannot be seen or felt or heard or tasted or smelled or known...

yet seeing feeling hearing tasting smelling and knowing plainly 'is'... though 'by definition'... it is not... :roll:

that which appears real and ever changing is thus illusion, and that which does not change or appear at all is real...

the 'real' bird is not separate from all that is known... ever hidden in the knowing...

but of course... as you cannot see or know this knowing or the known that is one with it... it appears I'm talking non-sense... which I am... :D

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Re: michael

Post by ANNA » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:14 pm

michael wrote:
Many Of One wrote:
michael wrote:the apparent confusion comes from seeing the 'little black and yellow blob' that appears to be the creature, as any different to the 'black squiggles' that appear to be the words: "yellow headed blackbird"...

both are simply 'colours seen'... that they appear to be any 'thing' at all is the illusion... 8)

the 'real' "yellow headed blackbird" has never been seen... :o

and what appears to vanish is not beauty....
it is beauty’s image…

what a mystery... :D

Love
What do you mean by 'real' "yellow headed blackbird"? (Is there one?)

I suppose beauty is a 'feeling felt', another appearance like the 'colours seen'.
'real' can be 'real' only by definition...

here 'real' stands for that which is unchanging...

for then what it is now, it is ever thus...

by this definition what appears and disappears is not 'real'... it is thus (by definition) 'illusion'...

since the appearance of these words 'comes and goes'... they are 'illusion'...

all that is sensed is by this definition 'illusion'…

it is also apparent that 'one moment' this is known, and the next moment something else is known and that which was known at first is completely 'forgotten'... until it is again remembered.

thus it appears that 'all is illusion'…

and that the 'real' is non-existent... for it cannot be seen or felt or heard or tasted or smelled or known...

yet seeing feeling hearing tasting smelling and knowing plainly 'is'... though 'by definition'... it is not... :roll:

that which appears real and ever changing is thus illusion, and that which does not change or appear at all is real...

the 'real' bird is not separate from all that is known... ever hidden in the knowing...

but of course... as you cannot see or know this knowing or the known that is one with it... it appears I'm talking non-sense... which I am... :D

Love
Dear, dear Mi_cha_el,

'you' are just talking and appear

AS

a yellow headed blackbird...lol :lol:

Isn't It wonder_Full?

:D
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Re: michael

Post by michael » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:16 pm

ANNA wrote:
michael wrote:
Many Of One wrote:
michael wrote:the apparent confusion comes from seeing the 'little black and yellow blob' that appears to be the creature, as any different to the 'black squiggles' that appear to be the words: "yellow headed blackbird"...

both are simply 'colours seen'... that they appear to be any 'thing' at all is the illusion... 8)

the 'real' "yellow headed blackbird" has never been seen... :o

and what appears to vanish is not beauty....
it is beauty’s image…

what a mystery... :D

Love
What do you mean by 'real' "yellow headed blackbird"? (Is there one?)

I suppose beauty is a 'feeling felt', another appearance like the 'colours seen'.
'real' can be 'real' only by definition...

here 'real' stands for that which is unchanging...

for then what it is now, it is ever thus...

by this definition what appears and disappears is not 'real'... it is thus (by definition) 'illusion'...

since the appearance of these words 'comes and goes'... they are 'illusion'...

all that is sensed is by this definition 'illusion'…

it is also apparent that 'one moment' this is known, and the next moment something else is known and that which was known at first is completely 'forgotten'... until it is again remembered.

thus it appears that 'all is illusion'…

and that the 'real' is non-existent... for it cannot be seen or felt or heard or tasted or smelled or known...

yet seeing feeling hearing tasting smelling and knowing plainly 'is'... though 'by definition'... it is not... :roll:

that which appears real and ever changing is thus illusion, and that which does not change or appear at all is real...

the 'real' bird is not separate from all that is known... ever hidden in the knowing...

but of course... as you cannot see or know this knowing or the known that is one with it... it appears I'm talking non-sense... which I am... :D

Love
Dear, dear Mi_cha_el,

'you' are just talking and appear

AS

a yellow headed blackbird...lol :lol:

Isn't It wonder_Full?

:D
more like a greyheaded white bird... :roll:

but wonder full no less... :D

Love
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Re: michael

Post by ANNA » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:22 pm

michael wrote:
ANNA wrote:
michael wrote:
Many Of One wrote:
michael wrote:the apparent confusion comes from seeing the 'little black and yellow blob' that appears to be the creature, as any different to the 'black squiggles' that appear to be the words: "yellow headed blackbird"...

both are simply 'colours seen'... that they appear to be any 'thing' at all is the illusion... 8)

the 'real' "yellow headed blackbird" has never been seen... :o

and what appears to vanish is not beauty....
it is beauty’s image…

what a mystery... :D

Love
What do you mean by 'real' "yellow headed blackbird"? (Is there one?)

I suppose beauty is a 'feeling felt', another appearance like the 'colours seen'.
'real' can be 'real' only by definition...

here 'real' stands for that which is unchanging...

for then what it is now, it is ever thus...

by this definition what appears and disappears is not 'real'... it is thus (by definition) 'illusion'...

since the appearance of these words 'comes and goes'... they are 'illusion'...

all that is sensed is by this definition 'illusion'…

it is also apparent that 'one moment' this is known, and the next moment something else is known and that which was known at first is completely 'forgotten'... until it is again remembered.

thus it appears that 'all is illusion'…

and that the 'real' is non-existent... for it cannot be seen or felt or heard or tasted or smelled or known...

yet seeing feeling hearing tasting smelling and knowing plainly 'is'... though 'by definition'... it is not... :roll:

that which appears real and ever changing is thus illusion, and that which does not change or appear at all is real...

the 'real' bird is not separate from all that is known... ever hidden in the knowing...

but of course... as you cannot see or know this knowing or the known that is one with it... it appears I'm talking non-sense... which I am... :D

Love
Dear, dear Mi_cha_el,

'you' are just talking and appear

AS

a yellow headed blackbird...lol :lol:

Isn't It wonder_Full?

:D
more like a greyheaded white bird... :roll:

but wonder full no less... :D

Love
Does the idea of wonder_full_no_less
as well the greyheaded white bird
is an illusion ...too? :wink:

"thus it appears that 'all is illusion'…

and that the 'real' is non-existent... "



:wink: :P :lol:
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Post by ANNA » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:29 pm

What is seen is not the Truth

What is cannot be said

Trust comes not without seeing

Nor understanding without words

The wise comprehends with knowledge

To the ignorant it is but a wonder

Some worship the formless God

Some worship His various forms

In what way He is beyond these attributes

Only the Knower knows

That music cannot be written

How can then be the notes

Says Kabir, awareness alone will overcome illusion



Kabir

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Re: michael

Post by awakening » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:29 pm

michael wrote:
Many Of One wrote:
michael wrote:the apparent confusion comes from seeing the 'little black and yellow blob' that appears to be the creature, as any different to the 'black squiggles' that appear to be the words: "yellow headed blackbird"...

both are simply 'colours seen'... that they appear to be any 'thing' at all is the illusion... 8)

the 'real' "yellow headed blackbird" has never been seen... :o

and what appears to vanish is not beauty....
it is beauty’s image…

what a mystery... :D

Love
What do you mean by 'real' "yellow headed blackbird"? (Is there one?)

I suppose beauty is a 'feeling felt', another appearance like the 'colours seen'.
'real' can be 'real' only by definition...

here 'real' stands for that which is unchanging...

for then what it is now, it is ever thus...

by this definition what appears and disappears is not 'real'... it is thus (by definition) 'illusion'...

since the appearance of these words 'comes and goes'... they are 'illusion'...

all that is sensed is by this definition 'illusion'…

it is also apparent that 'one moment' this is known, and the next moment something else is known and that which was known at first is completely 'forgotten'... until it is again remembered.

thus it appears that 'all is illusion'…

and that the 'real' is non-existent... for it cannot be seen or felt or heard or tasted or smelled or known...

yet seeing feeling hearing tasting smelling and knowing plainly 'is'... though 'by definition'... it is not... :roll:

that which appears real and ever changing is thus illusion, and that which does not change or appear at all is real...

the 'real' bird is not separate from all that is known... ever hidden in the knowing...

but of course... as you cannot see or know this knowing or the known that is one with it... it appears I'm talking non-sense... which I am... :D

Love
It is a good description of how the words 'real' and 'unreal' are used in discussing Advaita and it can be a great pointer. Generally speaking I have no problem calling 'things' either 'real' or 'unreal' but ultimately I would hesitate to label them as 'real' or 'unreal.'

The book 'From Self to Self' starts with the following quote which obviously resonates here:

Since things neither exist nor don’t exist,
are neither real nor unreal,
are utterly beyond adopting and rejecting,
one might as well burst out laughing.


Longchenpa Rabjampa - Tibet, 14th century


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