The New Gospel...or "Really Good News"

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Re: The New Gospel...or "Really Good News"

Post by toombaru » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:23 pm

Lydian wrote:
toombaru wrote:
awakening wrote: And there are even more
who believe
in time and history....

They just do not recognize it as a belief
and take it to be a fact...


Dinosaur bones...........have no reason to lie.

:roll:


toombaru
All that can ultimately be said is that there IS no past (rather than there was no past).

And bones...... do not contradict this (THIS.)



The 'was' is totally unknowable/perplexing....... except...... as a story.

(a pretty vital one for apparent organismic functioning it seems.)


:D


The organism exists only in the past.



(bumper sticker)





toombaru
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Re: The New Gospel...or "Really Good News"

Post by Lydian » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:30 pm

toombaru wrote:
Lydian wrote:
toombaru wrote:
awakening wrote: And there are even more
who believe
in time and history....

They just do not recognize it as a belief
and take it to be a fact...


Dinosaur bones...........have no reason to lie.

:roll:


toombaru
All that can ultimately be said is that there IS no past (rather than there was no past).

And bones...... do not contradict this (THIS.)



The 'was' is totally unknowable/perplexing....... except...... as a story.

(a pretty vital one for apparent organismic functioning it seems.)

:D


The organism exists only in the past.



(bumper sticker)
Bit of friendly advice.....

Don't go into business trying to retail these bumper stickers.....

There's really no market for them.....


:lol: :lol:
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Re: The New Gospel...or "Really Good News"

Post by toombaru » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:32 pm

Lydian wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Lydian wrote:
toombaru wrote:
awakening wrote: And there are even more
who believe
in time and history....

They just do not recognize it as a belief
and take it to be a fact...


Dinosaur bones...........have no reason to lie.

:roll:


toombaru
All that can ultimately be said is that there IS no past (rather than there was no past).

And bones...... do not contradict this (THIS.)



The 'was' is totally unknowable/perplexing....... except...... as a story.

(a pretty vital one for apparent organismic functioning it seems.)

:D


The organism exists only in the past.



(bumper sticker)
Bit of friendly advice.....

Don't go into business trying to retail these bumper stickers.....

There's really no market for them.....


:lol: :lol:

:lol:



toombaru
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Post by annaruiz » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:35 pm

Bullocks!

There's a vast market. Can you imagine all those heads scratching?
Might give folks a think to thing.

:lol:
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Re: The New Gospel...or "Really Good News"

Post by toombaru » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:40 pm

Lydian wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Lydian wrote:
toombaru wrote:
awakening wrote: And there are even more
who believe
in time and history....

They just do not recognize it as a belief
and take it to be a fact...


Dinosaur bones...........have no reason to lie.

:roll:


toombaru
All that can ultimately be said is that there IS no past (rather than there was no past).

And bones...... do not contradict this (THIS.)



The 'was' is totally unknowable/perplexing....... except...... as a story.

(a pretty vital one for apparent organismic functioning it seems.)

:D


The organism exists only in the past.



(bumper sticker)
Bit of friendly advice.....

Don't go into business trying to retail these bumper stickers.....

There's really no market for them.....


:lol: :lol:



Well.............my market would have to be limited to the non-dualistically sophisticated..........and since most of them can't afford cars...........................


:shock:




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Re: The New Gospel...or "Really Good News"

Post by empty-and-full » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:53 pm

toombaru wrote:
Lydian wrote:
toombaru wrote:
awakening wrote: And there are even more
who believe
in time and history....

They just do not recognize it as a belief
and take it to be a fact...


Dinosaur bones...........have no reason to lie.

:roll:


toombaru
All that can ultimately be said is that there IS no past (rather than there was no past).

And bones...... do not contradict this (THIS.)



The 'was' is totally unknowable/perplexing....... except...... as a story.

(a pretty vital one for apparent organismic functioning it seems.)


:D


The organism exists only in the past.



(bumper sticker)





toombaru

What's this about orgasm? [bigsmile]
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Post by michael » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:44 am

toombaru wrote:
michael wrote:
toombaru wrote:
michael wrote:
toombaru wrote:
michael wrote:
toombaru wrote:
awakening wrote:
toombaru wrote:Predating the Christ story, ancient history is replete with numerous identical mythologies.

Saviors who were born of a virgin.....and died by the cross or by other means.....were reborn...ascended to heaven....all for our sins were a dime a dozen in th ancient world.

The early Christians combined these many myths into one incoherent, contradictory story that has since been swallowed hook, line and sinker by untold millions.

This would indicate that deep within the human psyche there lies a certain nutritional imbalance that is ameliorated by such bizarre belief systems.

It could be speculated that the self is the origin of this personal dream to ease its own fear of impending doom and that the myth of Christ is an elaborate subterfuge that originates within the confusion that results from misidentification and the resulting repulsion of imaginary separation.


How else could one explain so many people believing something so ridiculous?



toombaru
And there are even more
who believe
in time and history....

They just do not recognize it as a belief
and take it to be a fact...


Dinosaur bones...........have no reason to lie.


:roll:



toombaru
and what do they say to you toomby... :D

Love


They speak of the progression of time.





toombaru
and what does that tell you

Love



It tells the me that it exists within a reality in which time is sequential.

It tells the me that it is not different than that perception.......and that it has no reality outside of that format.



toombaru
from the perspective of toombaru... what is 'time'

Love


The apparent observation of the apparent movement of apparent objects through apparent space and the appearance of apparent sequential relationship there of.



toombaru
while seeming to be toombaru... do 'I' see that what is 'described'... is a 'concept'...

without the concept of an 'object' there can be no concept of 'space'...

and 'time' has meaning only in the context of 'objects' changing 'shape and/or position' in 'space'...

impossible to sense 'time' or 'space' separate from apparent objects... for they are 'relations'.. 'pure concept'... like 'freedom'...

'you' cannot see or feel or hear or taste or smell... 'time' or 'space'... or 'freedom'...

they can only be known... one with the knowing...

along with the concepts of 'dinosaur bones'... and 'the theory of evolution'... and the 'theory of gravity'... and the 'stories of the bible'...

all concepts... are one... 'self referential'... ever unchanging...

coming from nowhere... now here... and going nowhere... now here...

yet... there is no awareness at all of this concept of 'time'... until it is imaged through sensations as: "the observation of the apparent movement/change of apparent objects through unseen space and the rememberance of the sequential relationship there of"...

indeed... there is no awareness of any concept at all... until imaged through sensations...

amazing...

in the absence of 'movement/change'... there is no 'time'.

and as (except as conceived)... all 'movement/change' is 'apparent' only...

so the 'passing of time' too is 'apparent only'...

no 'thing' ever changes...

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Post by michael » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:52 am

the preceding post is apparently changed... 8)

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Re: The New Gospel...or "Really Good News"

Post by Lydian » Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:28 am

empty-and-full wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Lydian wrote:
toombaru wrote:
awakening wrote: And there are even more
who believe
in time and history....

They just do not recognize it as a belief
and take it to be a fact...

Dinosaur bones...........have no reason to lie.

:roll:

toombaru
All that can ultimately be said is that there IS no past (rather than there was no past).

And bones...... do not contradict this (THIS.)


The 'was' is totally unknowable/perplexing....... except...... as a story.

(a pretty vital one for apparent organismic functioning it seems.)


:D


The organism exists only in the past.


(bumper sticker)


toombaru

What's this about orgasm? [bigsmile]

I've just been informed that they only exist in the past.....


:shock: :shock:



:lol:
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Re: The New Gospel...or "Really Good News"

Post by toombaru » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:44 pm

Lydian wrote:
empty-and-full wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Lydian wrote:
toombaru wrote:
awakening wrote: And there are even more
who believe
in time and history....

They just do not recognize it as a belief
and take it to be a fact...

Dinosaur bones...........have no reason to lie.

:roll:

toombaru
All that can ultimately be said is that there IS no past (rather than there was no past).

And bones...... do not contradict this (THIS.)


The 'was' is totally unknowable/perplexing....... except...... as a story.

(a pretty vital one for apparent organismic functioning it seems.)


:D


The organism exists only in the past.


(bumper sticker)


toombaru

What's this about orgasm? [bigsmile]

I've just been informed that they only exist in the past.....


:shock: :shock:



:lol:


Which means...........they don't exist at all.




toombaru
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Post by epi » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:13 pm

Source :?:
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Post by maple3 » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:03 pm

meL wrote:Internal Server Error
Hey, this is actually a pretty good non-dual pointer. [ok]
meL wrote:The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Haha.. and there's another pointer to why no one can ever really be "enlightened"...
because the "request" for enlightenment is simply un-complete-able. ;)
meL wrote:The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Um... or maybe the "mis-configuration" is more accurately described as a non-configuration? ... for no one? ;)
meL wrote:More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Hahahaha ... now that's REALLY funny... :lol:
meL wrote:...an internal error...
But yeah, even an "internal error" is Absolute Perfection. :D
Kali wrote:Same here...

thank you Mel...
Yup... IT's always the same ... everywhere... [bigsmile]


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Post by Richard » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:12 pm

That's what we need, thought-provoking bumper stickers to distract drivers from their cell phone conversations.

Of course there were dinosaurs in the past and they are not here in the present. Hasn't anyone watched The Flintstones?

What is it, though, that the dinosaurs appeared in, which was their substratum?

Or should I phrase it as: Apparently what is it that the apparent dinosaurs apparently appeared in, which was their apparent substratum?

Like the police and the reporters use of the word 'alleged'.
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Post by maple3 » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:41 pm

Richard wrote:What is it, though, that the dinosaurs appeared in, which was their substratum?

Or should I phrase it as: Apparently what is it that the apparent dinosaurs apparently appeared in, which was their apparent substratum?
Kinda like what I've asked before, but in a different way...

If there's (apparent) dinosaurs (or dinosaur bones?), and if there's no one to see them, do they really make a SEEn? :-k

meL wrote:More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
;) :D


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Post by maple3 » Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:23 pm

maple3 wrote:Kinda like what I've asked before, but in a different way...
Oh yeah, michael also pointed at the exact same thing...
just in the looooonnnng version. ;) :P :D


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