Designer Gods

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Designer Gods

Post by toombaru » Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:52 pm

Diabetes, ALS, chronic back pain, Lupis, Cancer, macular degeneration, arthritus, malaria, AIDS, herpes, dementia, stroke, hepatitus A and B, cistic fibrosis, Lyme disease, plague, STD flesh eating bacteria, tape worm, sickle cell anemia, Parkenson's disease, Alzheimer's, congestive heart failure, kidney stones, Terretts, Lymphatic filariasiis, arrhythmia, schitzophrenia, flat feet. etc.etc.etc.




........................good job God.





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Re: Designer Gods

Post by Aurora » Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:59 pm

toombaru wrote:Diabetes, ALS, chronic back pain, Lupis, Cancer, macular degeneration, arthritus, malaria, AIDS, herpes, dementia, stroke, hepatitus A and B, cistic fibrosis, Lyme disease, plague, STD flesh eating bacteria, tape worm, sickle cell anemia, Parkenson's disease, Alzheimer's, congestive heart failure, kidney stones, Terretts, Lymphatic filariasiis, arrhythmia, schitzophrenia, flat feet. etc.etc.etc.




........................good job God.

you know how the vision works? How the outside light is transmitted through the lens , the signal transportet through the 2. brain nerve and via transmission " seen " throug the vision part of the brain.

Do you know how the fertilized egg, is growing, how the growing cells are folding themselves , and spezializing , growing for 9 months, and then coming out , to grow, talk, walk, and finally post at an internet forum!

you know how the gas exchange is working in the smallest part of the airways, giving new oksygen to the body tissue and breathing CO 2 out.

do you know how the sinus rytmic senter in the heart is fiering, giving heartbeats, how the valves is opening, and closing at right times for the blood to go out.

you know how the DNA is working, coding for the protein the body needs?


....... I have been working with diseases day and also nights for 15 years , and still at wonder of the miracle of the body .......

.......I can stabilize a fracture, but it is healing by itself........

.....I can give medicin for an arytmia, but its the heart beating that is the miracle....


Its the miracle, toombaru , the miracle ....
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Re: Designer Gods

Post by aquarius » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:24 pm

toombaru wrote:Diabetes, ALS, chronic back pain, Lupis, Cancer, macular degeneration, arthritus, malaria, AIDS, herpes, dementia, stroke, hepatitus A and B, cistic fibrosis, Lyme disease, plague, STD flesh eating bacteria, tape worm, sickle cell anemia, Parkenson's disease, Alzheimer's, congestive heart failure, kidney stones, Terretts, Lymphatic filariasiis, arrhythmia, schitzophrenia, flat feet. etc.etc.etc.




........................good job God.





toombaru
:D


Good job indeed!

what are you trying to say ?
you don't like the bad ?

so what !!

IT is both some - thing
or
IT is no - thing

we say we don't like it
then we say we do like it

THAT IS the nature of IT
and there ain't no-thing - no-body can/can't do about IT

so what do you think of that toomby?


:D
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it is the only thing i know anything about.
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Re: Designer Gods

Post by toombaru » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:58 pm

Aurora wrote:
toombaru wrote:Diabetes, ALS, chronic back pain, Lupis, Cancer, macular degeneration, arthritus, malaria, AIDS, herpes, dementia, stroke, hepatitus A and B, cistic fibrosis, Lyme disease, plague, STD flesh eating bacteria, tape worm, sickle cell anemia, Parkenson's disease, Alzheimer's, congestive heart failure, kidney stones, Terretts, Lymphatic filariasiis, arrhythmia, schitzophrenia, flat feet. etc.etc.etc.




........................good job God.

you know how the vision works? How the outside light is transmitted through the lens , the signal transportet through the 2. brain nerve and via transmission " seen " throug the vision part of the brain.

Do you know how the fertilized egg, is growing, how the growing cells are folding themselves , and spezializing , growing for 9 months, and then coming out , to grow, talk, walk, and finally post at an internet forum!

you know how the gas exchange is working in the smallest part of the airways, giving new oksygen to the body tissue and breathing CO 2 out.

do you know how the sinus rytmic senter in the heart is fiering, giving heartbeats, how the valves is opening, and closing at right times for the blood to go out.

you know how the DNA is working, coding for the protein the body needs?


....... I have been working with diseases day and also nights for 15 years , and still at wonder of the miracle of the body .......

.......I can stabilize a fracture, but it is healing by itself........

.....I can give medicin for an arytmia, but its the heart beating that is the miracle....


Its the miracle, toombaru , the miracle ....



It is all a miracle....Which means......it isn't a miracle at all.

And the attempt to explain it by saying that a god did it all......says nothing.


Theologians have struggled....unsuccessfully...for eons in an attempt to explain a compassionate god that would create such suffering.

Why couldn't He just create a world without all the pain?

Oh....I know...I've heard all the arguments.

They all conclude with something like suffering is good....or God has mysterious ways......

Tell me.......Why do you believe that a god would allow the suffering that you see everywhere?





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Re: Designer Gods

Post by toombaru » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:07 pm

aquarius wrote:
toombaru wrote:Diabetes, ALS, chronic back pain, Lupis, Cancer, macular degeneration, arthritus, malaria, AIDS, herpes, dementia, stroke, hepatitus A and B, cistic fibrosis, Lyme disease, plague, STD flesh eating bacteria, tape worm, sickle cell anemia, Parkenson's disease, Alzheimer's, congestive heart failure, kidney stones, Terretts, Lymphatic filariasiis, arrhythmia, schitzophrenia, flat feet. etc.etc.etc.




........................good job God.





toombaru
:D


Good job indeed!

what are you trying to say ?
you don't like the bad ?

so what !!

IT is both some - thing
or
IT is no - thing

we say we don't like it
then we say we do like it

THAT IS the nature of IT
and there ain't no-thing - no-body can/can't do about IT

so what do you think of that toomby?


:D





If that is its nature.......why factor in a creator god?




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Re: Designer Gods

Post by aquarius » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:12 pm

toombaru wrote:
aquarius wrote:
toombaru wrote:Diabetes, ALS, chronic back pain, Lupis, Cancer, macular degeneration, arthritus, malaria, AIDS, herpes, dementia, stroke, hepatitus A and B, cistic fibrosis, Lyme disease, plague, STD flesh eating bacteria, tape worm, sickle cell anemia, Parkenson's disease, Alzheimer's, congestive heart failure, kidney stones, Terretts, Lymphatic filariasiis, arrhythmia, schitzophrenia, flat feet. etc.etc.etc.




........................good job God.





toombaru
:D


Good job indeed!

what are you trying to say ?
you don't like the bad ?

so what !!

IT is both some - thing
or
IT is no - thing

we say we don't like it
then we say we do like it

THAT IS the nature of IT
and there ain't no-thing - no-body can/can't do about IT

so what do you think of that toomby?


:D





If that is its nature.......why factor in a creator god?




toombaru
why add a creator god into the equation?

because IT appears in awareness ..

.
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it is the only thing i know anything about.
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Re: Designer Gods

Post by toombaru » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:27 pm

aquarius wrote:
toombaru wrote:
aquarius wrote:
toombaru wrote:Diabetes, ALS, chronic back pain, Lupis, Cancer, macular degeneration, arthritus, malaria, AIDS, herpes, dementia, stroke, hepatitus A and B, cistic fibrosis, Lyme disease, plague, STD flesh eating bacteria, tape worm, sickle cell anemia, Parkenson's disease, Alzheimer's, congestive heart failure, kidney stones, Terretts, Lymphatic filariasiis, arrhythmia, schitzophrenia, flat feet. etc.etc.etc.




........................good job God.





toombaru
:D


Good job indeed!

what are you trying to say ?
you don't like the bad ?

so what !!

IT is both some - thing
or
IT is no - thing

we say we don't like it
then we say we do like it

THAT IS the nature of IT
and there ain't no-thing - no-body can/can't do about IT

so what do you think of that toomby?


:D





If that is its nature.......why factor in a creator god?




toombaru
why add a creator god into the equation?

because IT appears in awareness ..

.



So do unicorns.



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Post by aquarius » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:32 pm

so do unicorns



so what's the point?
I love talking about nothing ...
it is the only thing i know anything about.
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Re: Designer Gods

Post by Lydian » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:33 pm

toombaru wrote: If that is its nature.......why factor in a creator god?
Most, if not all who have contributed to this theme of 'God' on this forum are not postulating the existence of a "creator god".

They are merely pointing out that the word 'God' as used here is a label for the nameless... IT/Being/Consciousness/Awareness/Tao etc.....

Yet you continually hijack and distort this simple 'understanding' and go into some polemic against the historical institutionalized idea of God and religion in general.

Are you aware that you are doing this?



:roll:
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Post by toombaru » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:35 pm

aquarius wrote:so do unicorns



so what's the point?

"God" comes from the same place as unicorns.



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Post by aquarius » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:37 pm

toombaru wrote:
aquarius wrote:so do unicorns



so what's the point?

"God" comes from the same place as unicorns.



toombaru
well duh!!

are we not just going round in circles?

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it is the only thing i know anything about.
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Re: Designer Gods

Post by toombaru » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:51 pm

Lydian wrote:
toombaru wrote: If that is its nature.......why factor in a creator god?
Most, if not all who have contributed to this theme of 'God' on this forum are not postulating the existence of a "creator god".

They are merely pointing out that the word 'God' as used here is a label for the nameless... IT/Being/Consciousness/Awareness/Tao etc.....

Yet you continually hijack and distort this simple 'understanding' and go into some polemic against the historical institutionalized idea of God and religion in general.

Are you aware that you are doing this?



:roll:










Yes...........I am.




A God..........by any name..........is still a god.


"
I am saying that the new age god......eg "God is All...is merely another spin on the delusional thought out of which the sense of separateness emerges......and then seeks to verify its own delusional assumptions.


The thought stream assumes that since it can...to some limited extent..... manipulate the physical environment....make coffee....raise its hand....etc....it imagines that it can also control that which exists only within its personal ideation.....(all things spiritual).


It seldom intuits that it is a shadow......stacking shadows.......living under the domain of a shadow god.




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Post by toombaru » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:53 pm

[qu
ote="aquarius"]
toombaru wrote:
aquarius wrote:so do unicorns



so what's the point?

"God" comes from the same place as unicorns.



toombaru
well duh!!

are we not just going round in circles?

.





Yes.



You asked ME to dance.





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Post by aquarius » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:58 pm

toombaru wrote:[qu
ote="aquarius"]
toombaru wrote:
aquarius wrote:so do unicorns



so what's the point?

"God" comes from the same place as unicorns.



toombaru
well duh!!

are we not just going round in circles?

.





Yes.



You asked ME to dance.





toombaru
Did i ?

..
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Post by toombaru » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:04 pm

aquarius wrote:
toombaru wrote:[qu
ote="aquarius"]
toombaru wrote:
aquarius wrote:so do unicorns



so what's the point?

"God" comes from the same place as unicorns.



toombaru
well duh!!

are we not just going round in circles?

.





Yes.



You asked ME to dance.





toombaru
Did i ?

..



Yes.





You paid at the door..........and entered this little bar........in cyber-space.


You walked up........ tapped me on the shoulder and smiled the way you do.


.....and we began to dance......


Like this.




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