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Post by toombaru » Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:52 pm

Logan:



He's a cut little cowboy alright.

But the attempt to compare the suffering of an old cow with a God that would sacrifice his only son for the benefit of a few selected sinful........doesn't make a whole lotta sense to me.




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Post by annaruiz » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:30 pm

Glad you picked up on that darling.

I say not two. So what is *God's will*? Whatever we think it is...until we don't....and still it's one and the same cause now God wills not....take it further down the train tracks and there is no god there is no will no self to live or die.

Depends which station (of the cross) you decide to stop & rest awhile.

Poor Jesus, was he deluded? Was God cruel? Who am I to ask such questions? And tell me Toomie, why would we want or need anyone to die for our sins, no matter how many times the stars have foretold?

Nice story? A story to hand down through the ages?

I think an old friend related the possibility of a modern day Jesus being put to death in electric chair... (or now on a gurney with IV's) would we wear little electric chairs on chains around our necks?

I wonder about these things, do you Toomie?

~Anna
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Post by toombaru » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:44 pm

annaruiz wrote:Glad you picked up on that darling.

I say not two. So what is *God's will*? Whatever we think it is...until we don't....and still it's one and the same cause now God wills not....take it further down the train tracks and there is no god there is no will no self to live or die.

Depends which station (of the cross) you decide to stop & rest awhile.

Poor Jesus, was he deluded? Was God cruel? Who am I to ask such questions? And tell me Toomie, why would we want or need anyone to die for our sins, no matter how many times the stars have foretold?

Nice story? A story to hand down through the ages?

I think an old friend related the possibility of a modern day Jesus being put to death in electric chair... (or now on a gurney with IV's) would we wear little electric chairs on chains around our necks?

I wonder about these things, do you Toomie?

~Anna




I wonder about them less these days.

Now there seems to be a generalized wonder.



:lol:





Happy New Year Love.
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Post by godszen » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:21 pm

To understand the story of Jesus, just think about the things that he did, and the things that happened to him. Acknowledge his actions only.

The so-called reasons why, and what everyone said, forget it.
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Post by toombaru » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:46 pm

godszen wrote:To understand the story of Jesus, just think about the things that he did, and the things that happened to him. Acknowledge his actions only.

The so-called reasons why, and what everyone said, forget it.

There is great doubt as to whether the Christ fellow actually existed.

No contemporary historian makes any mention of him.

And the gospels were written one hundred and fifty years after his supposed death....and revised again and again through the ages.

The Christ mythology preceded the historical character by a thousand years.

The virgin birth, the crucifixion, the ascension......the whole ball of wax.

What this says is that within the human psyche is the innate need to symbolically fill in the gaps of its guess work concerning its own assumed origin.

It never....well almost never.........dawns that the thing searching doesn't actually exist....and that any mythology that it invents to explain its origin and function is by definition wrong.


If the self is illusory..............what does that say about its Gods?




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Post by annaruiz » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:52 pm

The only thing that makes sense in this world that seems entirely senseless at times is Love.

Practiced for no other reason than that there is nothing else that is real.

And YES! the sense of wonder: so it is so.

~Anna
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Post by Aurora » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:53 pm

annaruiz wrote:The only thing that makes sense in this world that seems entirely senseless at times is Love.

Practiced for no other reason than that there is nothing else that is real.

And YES! the sense of wonder: so it is so.

~Anna
Hi!

What is Love?

How is it to be found?


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Post by annaruiz » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:01 pm

Love is something that can never be lost...
never be found....
Love is the very Self of You
the Life of You,
the Love of You,
the You of You,

And even if You should have looked
Your entire life
for something else,
one day
Love will find You...


:lol:

~Anna
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Post by Aurora » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:02 pm

annaruiz wrote:Love is something that can never be lost...
never be found....
Love is the very Self of You
the Life of You,
the Love of You,
the You of You,

And even if You should have looked
Your entire life
for something else,
one day
Love will find You...


:lol:

~Anna
Thanks , Anna. :D
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Post by annaruiz » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:05 pm

:wink:
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Post by toombaru » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:11 pm

annaruiz wrote:The only thing that makes sense in this world that seems entirely senseless at times is Love.

Practiced for no other reason than that there is nothing else that is real.

And YES! the sense of wonder: so it is so.

~Anna



That which is termed "love" in the normal human lexicon is merely a biological synonym for the care or compassion of one's familial or tribal genotype.

There is.........however......a most peculiar...non-emotional feeling tone....whose artesian upwelling cannot be so easily explained.

It can be strummed by the poet.....the musician......or the sight of a humming bird.





It is not what we long for......it is who we are.





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Post by annaruiz » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:54 pm

I love you Toombaru.

~ Anna

p.s. And I still don't know who you are! :lol:
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Post by toombaru » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:59 pm

annaruiz wrote:

And I still don't know who you are! :lol:


That makes two of us.



:lol:
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Post by annaruiz » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:24 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:P


what else am I to expect from an entity calling himself Toombaru?

:wink:
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Post by toombaru » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:29 am

annaruiz wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:P


what else am I to expect from an entity calling himself Toombaru?

:wink:


Yeah.............That's just a made up name.





:lol:
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