If you think you have it...........

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If you think you have it...........

Post by toombaru » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:22 pm

If you think you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on.........you are deluded.
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by ANNA » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:52 pm

toombaru wrote:If you think you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning about any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on.........you are deluded.

agreed.


nothing of what i thought i interested in, have read, knew

doesn't makes sense any more........


.....................like a cracked balloon...........

:?
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by toombaru » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:58 pm

ANNA wrote:
toombaru wrote:If you think you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning about any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on.........you are deluded.

agreed.


nothing of what i thought i interested, read, knew

make sense any more........



Even knowing that it doesn't make sense evaporates in the light of awareness......and one gazes out into the Flowing with baby eyes.
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by aquarius » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:54 pm

toombaru wrote:If you think you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on.........you are deluded.
Agreed.

No matter how much we search, or how long we study, no amount of learning will ever bring us closer to understanding the nature of self.

It says so in the following article ...... :lol:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/s ... 149095.ece

However, it doesn't stop the restless mind from it's futile quest..
I love talking about nothing ...
it is the only thing i know anything about.
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by ANNA » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:56 pm

toombaru wrote:
ANNA wrote:
toombaru wrote:If you think you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning about any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on.........you are deluded.

agreed.


nothing of what i thought i interested, read, knew

make sense any more........



Even knowing that it doesn't make sense evaporates in the light of awareness......and one gazes out into the Flowing with baby eyes.

..............even the stories

of the Flowing and the 'Dream Dreamt by no one'


doesn't makes sense.......


like an antique they all have done, passed away.....

.....................................................................................nowhere


:roll:
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by Libra » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:33 pm

toombaru wrote:If you think [size=0]you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on[/size].........you are deluded.
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by ANNA » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:22 pm

aquarius wrote:
toombaru wrote:If you think you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on.........you are deluded.
Agreed.

No matter how much we search, or how long we study, no amount of learning will ever bring us closer to understanding the nature of self.

It says so in the following article ...... :lol:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/s ... 149095.ece

However, it doesn't stop the restless mind from it's futile quest..

thanks for the article, aqua :lol:


it makes me smiles and laugh, especially to this:
as Einstein’s ideas would baffle a chimpanzee
....lol


:lol:
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by toombaru » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:46 am

Libra wrote:
toombaru wrote:If you think [size=0]you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on[/size].........you are deluded.

('=D>')
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by Xmac » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:34 pm

toombaru wrote:
Libra wrote:
toombaru wrote:If you think [size=0]you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on[/size].........you are deluded.

('=D>')
How dualistic.
Log on to the inner-net and be kind to your mind (or not).
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by toombaru » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:50 pm

Xmac wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Libra wrote:
toombaru wrote:If you think [size=0]you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on[/size].........you are deluded.

('=D>')
How dualistic.


"You" cannot exist outside of dualism.
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by Xmac » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:05 pm

toombaru wrote:
Xmac wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Libra wrote:
toombaru wrote:If you think [size=0]you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on[/size].........you are deluded.

('=D>')
How dualistic.


"You" cannot exist outside of dualism.
Well that's half "true".
Log on to the inner-net and be kind to your mind (or not).
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by toombaru » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:14 pm

Xmac wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Xmac wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Libra wrote:
toombaru wrote:If you think [size=0]you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on[/size].........you are deluded.

('=D>')
How dualistic.


"You" cannot exist outside of dualism.
Well that's half "true".


You are a persona whose totality is composed of nothing but swirling mnemonic debris......empty in the center.

You are not the "oneness out of which everything emerges".

That is merely one more mind map.
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by dilaram » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:45 pm

toombaru wrote:
That is merely one more mind map.

For "a mind map" there has to be "a mind" and "someone who owns that mind", otherwise you're talking bollocks...

but for the rest, nevermind the bollocks...

Image
:wink:
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by Zed » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:14 pm

toombaru wrote:
You are a persona whose totality is composed of nothing but swirling mnemonic debris......empty in the center.

You are not the "oneness out of which everything emerges".

That is merely one more mind map.
Do you believe that there is only the one (please try to resist 'advaita speak' by saying there is not even one etc.) 'instance' of the persona that is composed of swirling mnemonic debris i.e. the one that is evident right now. Or is it the case that this persona arises with each apparent organism?

If there is one, that amounts to solipsism.

If there are many, are they separate, discreet and self-originating...

Or part of a whole?
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Re: If you think you have it...........

Post by Xmac » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:14 pm

toombaru wrote:
Xmac wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Xmac wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Libra wrote:
toombaru wrote:If you think [size=0]you understand the nature of self.........you don't.
If you believe that you have a handle on reality.........you haven't.
If you cling to the idea that your mind is able to know anything concerning any spiritual matter.......you are mistaken.
If you think that any human being..........at any time in history......has been capable of grasping what's going on[/size].........you are deluded.

('=D>')
How dualistic.


"You" cannot exist outside of dualism.
Well that's half "true".
You are a persona whose totality is composed of nothing but swirling mnemonic debris......empty in the center.
Ouch!.....(hmmmmm).......I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I? [bigsmile]
You are not the "oneness out of which everything emerges".
Not/Is not, oneness/separateness, everything/nothing, emerge/fade.
The difference is no difference.
Log on to the inner-net and be kind to your mind (or not).
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