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Post by toombaru » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:51 pm

Blossom wrote:[quote="toombaru We are cut off from peace like the wind is cut off from stillness.
We cannot ever be cut off from Awareness and Awareness is Peace whether we know it or not---Awareness is not concerned with what goes on with the images within Its Beingness. Or say it this way: you can change the word Awareness to stillness, its the same thing, but Awareness is 'stillness' in that it cannot be altered. (Stillness) Awareness is not ruffled when the wind blows. Awareness is not changed when the wind blows. Awareness exists no matter how loud or forceful or chaotic the wind might be--- Awareness is not cut off when the wind blows. (Stillness) which is the same as Awareness (Peace), is not disturbed by or made loud when the voices shout.

Awareness is being the wind blowing and the one seeing the leaves russtle in the trees, and awareness is being the trees blowing in the wind---even if there is a hurricane force wind; awareness goes right on being aware completely free and totally unharmed by that force. even if the electric is cut off, and branches of the trees fall off---nothing happens to awareness; all that 'cutting off' is always "happening" or seen here within Awareness-Self-I-Am.[/quote]



"Awareness" can see everything but itself simply because it is not a thing.
Consciousness will never understand itself simply because it IS itself.
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Post by empty-and-full » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:35 pm

fox wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Xmac wrote:
toombaru wrote:
(t)
People don't have or hold positions.

Yes, however I regard that as a given.

People ARE positions.
What does that mean? They stay the same? They are located somewhere? In what sense?

There is no such thing as a person.
The person or the "I am" is an inference that emerges from the mnemonic debris that accumulates over the life span of the physical organism.
"Position" refers to a world-view or personal mind map.
The "person" IS the mind map.
hmmmm, but what then is "the physical organism"...?!
another thought :roll:

we really do create this reality with our thoughts :D
:)
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Post by toombaru » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:40 pm

empty-and-full wrote:
fox wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Xmac wrote:
toombaru wrote:
(t)
People don't have or hold positions.

Yes, however I regard that as a given.

People ARE positions.
What does that mean? They stay the same? They are located somewhere? In what sense?

There is no such thing as a person.
The person or the "I am" is an inference that emerges from the mnemonic debris that accumulates over the life span of the physical organism.
"Position" refers to a world-view or personal mind map.
The "person" IS the mind map.
hmmmm, but what then is "the physical organism"...?!
another thought :roll:

we really do create this reality with our thoughts :D



The thoughts and the perception of reality are one and the same.
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Post by empty-and-full » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:34 am

toombaru wrote:
empty-and-full wrote:
fox wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Xmac wrote:
toombaru wrote:
(t)
People don't have or hold positions.

Yes, however I regard that as a given.

People ARE positions.
What does that mean? They stay the same? They are located somewhere? In what sense?

There is no such thing as a person.
The person or the "I am" is an inference that emerges from the mnemonic debris that accumulates over the life span of the physical organism.
"Position" refers to a world-view or personal mind map.
The "person" IS the mind map.
hmmmm, but what then is "the physical organism"...?!
another thought :roll:

we really do create this reality with our thoughts :D



The thoughts and the perception of reality are one and the same.
otherwise this message would be garbled mess of squiggles and spaces
:)
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Post by makara » Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:06 am

"If you can set it on the table......it is real."
Apparently ... however, it may not be what
it appears to be. That ding und sich on the table
might just be dancing atoms.
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Post by Libra » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:25 pm

makara wrote:
"If you can set it on the table......it is real."
Apparently ... however, it may not be what
it appears to be. That ding und sich on the table
might just be dancing atoms.
a new atomic theory?
variation on the
Life is a Dance concept

When asked if he could sum up his life's message Ram Dass replied, ... The Only Dance There Is
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Post by toombaru » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:59 am

Libra wrote:
makara wrote:
"If you can set it on the table......it is real."
Apparently ... however, it may not be what
it appears to be. That ding und sich on the table
might just be dancing atoms.
a new atomic theory?
variation on the
Life is a Dance concept

When asked if he could sum up his life's message Ram Dass replied, ... The Only Dance There Is


Ram Dass took a little too much LSD in his imagined life.
The conceptual overlay that is the only abode of the I am cannot even be called a dance.
It is an electro-chemical concoction of the human brain in which a phantom emerges in a shadowland of its own swirling post-its.
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Post by Xmac » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:25 am

toombaru wrote:
Libra wrote:
makara wrote:
"If you can set it on the table......it is real."
Apparently ... however, it may not be what
it appears to be. That ding und sich on the table
might just be dancing atoms.
a new atomic theory?
variation on the
Life is a Dance concept

When asked if he could sum up his life's message Ram Dass replied, ... The Only Dance There Is


Ram Dass took a little too much LSD in his imagined life.
Always better to take more than you need just in case..hehe
The conceptual overlay that is the only abode of the I am cannot even be called a dance.
Too late!
It is an electro-chemical concoction of the human brain in which a phantom emerges in a shadowland of its own swirling post-its.
Now there's an acid trip for ya [bigsmile]
Log on to the inner-net and be kind to your mind (or not).
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Post by toombaru » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:31 am

Xmac wrote:
toombaru wrote:
Libra wrote:
makara wrote:
"If you can set it on the table......it is real."
Apparently ... however, it may not be what
it appears to be. That ding und sich on the table
might just be dancing atoms.
a new atomic theory?
variation on the
Life is a Dance concept

When asked if he could sum up his life's message Ram Dass replied, ... The Only Dance There Is


Ram Dass took a little too much LSD in his imagined life.
Always better to take more than you need just in case..hehe
The conceptual overlay that is the only abode of the I am cannot even be called a dance.
Too late!
It is an electro-chemical concoction of the human brain in which a phantom emerges in a shadowland of its own swirling post-its.
Now there's an acid trip for ya [bigsmile]

Hummmmmmm........an altered state of consciousness.
Interesting thought that.
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Post by makara » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:45 am

Interesting thought
:shock:
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Post by makara » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:39 am

strange ... made a new OP and it ended up in here?
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Post by makara » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:40 am

twice !!
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